Yeah I did a thread a while back on Israeli Sesame Street's surprisingly dark joke about Moishe Oofnik and Yom Kippur -- the resident Grouch goes around *refusing* to ask or offer forgiveness to everyone he knows
But it's kind of deeper than it seems
https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1357725076150362114?s=20 https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1362218638615453699
But it's kind of deeper than it seems
https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1357725076150362114?s=20 https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1362218638615453699
Like
Forgiveness is not some kind of magical automatic default reaction you have to being wronged
The idea of Yom Kippur is seeking and offering forgiveness is an *effortful act* that you do *in order to stay in community with each other*
Forgiveness is not some kind of magical automatic default reaction you have to being wronged
The idea of Yom Kippur is seeking and offering forgiveness is an *effortful act* that you do *in order to stay in community with each other*
"Because we care about keeping the community together, we will make the effort to get past this issue between us and move forward, whatever it actually takes to do so"
Because -- when Jewish people were an oppressed outnumbered minority -- they had to, to survive
Because -- when Jewish people were an oppressed outnumbered minority -- they had to, to survive
Moishe Oofnik, being a Grouch, does not want to be in community with anyone
The world can fuck off
Which means he doesn't want your forgiveness and he doesn't seek it from you
You are free to come after him as hard as you want for his actual crimes and he against you
The world can fuck off
Which means he doesn't want your forgiveness and he doesn't seek it from you
You are free to come after him as hard as you want for his actual crimes and he against you
That's not, like, a *good* thing
But it's not, in and of itself, sin
A good Jew wouldn't choose to live that way -- if everyone did that Judaism would vanish -- but as not a Jew, but a man (well, a Grouch) fine
It's his right to make that choice
You can respect that
But it's not, in and of itself, sin
A good Jew wouldn't choose to live that way -- if everyone did that Judaism would vanish -- but as not a Jew, but a man (well, a Grouch) fine
It's his right to make that choice
You can respect that
I like that better than Christianity, honestly
Jesus said some nice-sounding shit about how "the community" means EVERYONE in the ENTIRE WORLD, that you should treat any random stranger as your brother or sister
Christians took that lofty sentiment and tried to systematize it
Jesus said some nice-sounding shit about how "the community" means EVERYONE in the ENTIRE WORLD, that you should treat any random stranger as your brother or sister
Christians took that lofty sentiment and tried to systematize it
"You HAVE TO forgive people AS SOON AS they harm you, BEFORE they even ask it of you, REGARDLESS of whether they do anything to earn it, and EVEN IF they do not reciprocally forgive you"
Well that's super hardcore
It sounds very admirable indeed
It's fucking stupid though
Well that's super hardcore
It sounds very admirable indeed
It's fucking stupid though
Nobody actually fucking does that
Christians most of all
It makes every Christian in the world an obnoxious hypocrite as soon as they say it
If they actually did that they wouldn't fucking be alive
Christians most of all
It makes every Christian in the world an obnoxious hypocrite as soon as they say it
If they actually did that they wouldn't fucking be alive
And in practice, culturally dominant Christians in positions of power are vindictive and petty as fuck, unapologetically so, as much as anyone else in any position of power if not moreso
The hypocrisy flows from their lips effortlessly even as they tirelessly pursue their debts
The hypocrisy flows from their lips effortlessly even as they tirelessly pursue their debts
(Best thing ever was Jena Malone in Saved! screaming "I am FILLED with Christ's love!" while violently shoving another girl down into the sidewalk
Extremely accurate observation of Christian high school life)
Extremely accurate observation of Christian high school life)
And, as tiresomely repeatedly observed, Christians only seem to really bring up the idea of unconditional forgiveness and *push* it so that you have actually *do* it when it's them needing forgiveness
Or someone else who reminds them of themselves
Or someone else who reminds them of themselves
David Brooks, who as far as I know does not generally support universal debt jubilee, prison abolition, squatters' rights, etc. and whom I'm pretty sure does keep track of various petty journo grudges, going off on how Christianity teaches that morality is an "inverse process"
That Christianity "keeps no record of wrongs" and that in fact someone who's done a bad thing and overcome it is a *better person* in a Christian framework than someone who didn't initially sin
All because some douchebag lost his Harvard admission for making racist posts on FB
All because some douchebag lost his Harvard admission for making racist posts on FB