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Wings was always pissing on us and we very clearly said so
I also don't think e.g. swearing and a bit of *uncouth behaviour* the political class weren't used to when more people suddenly got involved in politics is on a level with the relentless hounding of LGBT people and women https://twitter.com/PAShanky/status/1361750489168281609
I also don't think e.g. swearing and a bit of *uncouth behaviour* the political class weren't used to when more people suddenly got involved in politics is on a level with the relentless hounding of LGBT people and women https://twitter.com/PAShanky/status/1361750489168281609
A lot of this weighting is because No didn't have a mass campaign of flayed humans, they just played to their shrinking base.
Labour then repeated exactly these problems with Corbyn which is why we got Corbynistas stole my play piece discourse for years. https://twitter.com/PAShanky/status/1361758138437926915?s=19
Labour then repeated exactly these problems with Corbyn which is why we got Corbynistas stole my play piece discourse for years. https://twitter.com/PAShanky/status/1361758138437926915?s=19
And as movements we have to get better at not just marching people up hills and leaving them there because that's exactly when yer Wings et al can move in. But if there are suddenly loads of new people, some of them might swear or be a bit rough and that's...not the worst thing
And honestly a lot of the criticism of the Zoomer Wing STILL being that they called once you a nawbag or got a bit rowdy in a meeting rather than that they're entire political outlook is based on hounding queer people and survivors 24/7, sorry I don't care for it.
There are serious questions for Yes here.
Namely, what did we think those angry das who were absolutely convinced Yes was happening (when we all knew it wasn't) were going to do afterwards?
Coz honestly, I just kinda assumed they'd end up coming for us.
Namely, what did we think those angry das who were absolutely convinced Yes was happening (when we all knew it wasn't) were going to do afterwards?
Coz honestly, I just kinda assumed they'd end up coming for us.
As a recovering Trot, I value *political education* and the aim should always have been to build a movement that was self sustaining and capable of acting to build power.
Instead, we basically dumped these people half way up a hill so now they focus all their energy on bigotry.
Instead, we basically dumped these people half way up a hill so now they focus all their energy on bigotry.
And when everyone who's been campaigning for indy all their lives (or since their recent evangelical conversion) suddenly gets it, then what?
Are they gonna throw themselves into community campaigns, unions?
Or are they gonna go on Wings and see which minority to hate next?
Are they gonna throw themselves into community campaigns, unions?
Or are they gonna go on Wings and see which minority to hate next?
Anyways I can and will go on all day about this so just wanted to add a wee shout out to everyone who suddenly cared about LGBT issues and feminism at the exact moment Wings started to criticise the SNP, after hating on us forever.
We see you and we're gonna be watching xoxo
We see you and we're gonna be watching xoxo
