interesting Clubhouse room now where Cantonese speakers from HK and Guangzhou are discussing a range of issues. a GZ-based speaker just said "the so-called Greater Bay Area" is just one of those national-level projects that most people don't really care about.

a Shenzhen-based guy now says he's envious of the spirit of resistance in HK. said he had attended school in Sha Tau Kok (at the border) and that while protests against things like parallel traders can be upsetting to him he understands why HK ppl are fighting back.

a HK-based woman is now asking a mainland moderator about their thoughts on Cantonese preservation, including the 2010 GZ protests. "CCP's language policies are like cooking a frog slowly in boiling water," replies the moderator. they dilute Canto culture by diluting the pop, eg

...moderator continues and says GZ ppl know how to resist and have done so in the past. but he said some have faced bullying from little pinks who accuse them of "Guangdong independence," citing the example of a campaign to use a Canto textbook for schools...

....and someone is snoring really loudly, having fallen asleep while on Clubhouse.

a HK woman now says shes feels very excited now that she's learning more about what Guangzhou-ers are doing to preserve their culture, and that she didn't know much about it at all until now.

now a discussion where people are sharing their memories of Southern Weekly, the once-influential investigative newspaper based in GZ. crazy.

someone says they remember a particularly striking Southern Weekly cover that featured Liu Xiaobo's Nobel win.

jumping back in the chat - mainland Chinese users are asking how far HK forum LIHKG represents HKers views. some HK users are quick to say that some of the xenophobia expressed on it shd not be seen to be representative of all HKers views.

a man who says he’s using a VPN he built himself says people who have the desire to seek the truth need to keep that desire alive and stay on top of whatever technology is out there to allow themselves to continue in their pursuit of truth.

on the topic of freedom of information and speech, a man jumps in and says how is it possible that in the US it’s so free but there are still people who believe covid is a hoax and the earth is flat

a Malaysian guy says he doesn’t feel from experience HK ppl discriminate vs ppl who speak Mandarin per se - only ppl who do so but are rude to HK ppl (says TW ppl are well received). but he also says HK ppl need to be more vigilant about not being discriminatory vs mainlanders.

mainland man says he received a message saying as he’s registered on CH w a mainland number once he logs out of the app he won’t be able to log back in as he cannot receive a verification code any longer. moderators of the room say that’s worse than they thought. ppl sound tense.

a Guangdong man who studied in Taiwan said that just as there’s lots of discriminatory speech against mainlanders on LIHKG, Weibo is also full of hate speech against Taiwanese like 留島不留人

a GZ man says he visited Occupy protests in 2014 and said he admired the organisation and discipline of the mvmt. for 2019 protests he said he followed the siege of PolyU closely and cried, but ppl ard him mostly feel differently abt HK as they get their news from Weibo...

...he suggests presenting ppl w alternative news sources instead of trying to argue or convince them, as ppl need to start by knowing there’s other sources of info out there.

a young GZ woman says about 95% of her frds think “everyone in HK should go to jail” and that her friends think she’s a weirdo when she tries to explain alternative POV about HK to them. the “peer pressure” to conform is immense in China and it’s very difficult to live freely.