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People bemoaning endless Tory govts - as far as i can see, it comes down to this:
Labour tears itself apart over who's
"Left enough"
who The Sun said was Anti-Semetic
who's "a plastic socialist"
who "doesnt look like a Govt-in-waiting"
Right-wing voters just go "yeh i vote tory
Labour tears itself apart over who's
"Left enough"
who The Sun said was Anti-Semetic
who's "a plastic socialist"
who "doesnt look like a Govt-in-waiting"
Right-wing voters just go "yeh i vote tory
"Who's in charge now? Bozza? Love him. His silly hair. His funny gaffes. He's like Churchill, isnt he?"
They just dont 'split' the way Left do.
The nearest they came to that was UKIP and the second they were threatened with losing 10-20 MPs, they absorbed UKIP policies.
They just dont 'split' the way Left do.
The nearest they came to that was UKIP and the second they were threatened with losing 10-20 MPs, they absorbed UKIP policies.
And when The Brexit Party threatened them in a similar manner, they absorbed harder & harder Brexit rhetoric - & absorbed those policies too.
The lesson there is, even if you shift to hard Right, the majority centre-Right of the country will stick with u, rather than vote Labour
The lesson there is, even if you shift to hard Right, the majority centre-Right of the country will stick with u, rather than vote Labour
So all the talk / 'leaks' re Labour's supposed lean towards patriotism & Union Jack flags in 2021... is actually quite encouraging.
There are some lined in The Guardian report on it that suggest the new look/feel will turn off some of the traditional Labour vote...
There are some lined in The Guardian report on it that suggest the new look/feel will turn off some of the traditional Labour vote...
But i cant be alone in thinking:
So what? Were the student & protest politics that turned them *on* sufficient to win an election? Nope
& if majority of country sit somewhere in centre & centre Right.. then maybe a brand overhaul embracing a positive "Britain" is the right move
So what? Were the student & protest politics that turned them *on* sufficient to win an election? Nope
& if majority of country sit somewhere in centre & centre Right.. then maybe a brand overhaul embracing a positive "Britain" is the right move
I think there was an adage / quote by Tony Blair that's always stuck with me; something along the lines of "You can't actually change anything from a stance of protest" / from opposition.
You need to be in *power* to effect actual change.
You need to be in *power* to effect actual change.
And like it or not... most of the country are quite obsessed with immigration, the flag, the monarchy, the war...
Seems to me like Team Starmer & their PR agency recognise this (& perhaps the truth in the Blair quote^^) and are pivoting to reflect the sort of Govt Britons want
Seems to me like Team Starmer & their PR agency recognise this (& perhaps the truth in the Blair quote^^) and are pivoting to reflect the sort of Govt Britons want
Corbyn was idealistic, ambitious, popular (among some sects of Labour party, not so much in others) but divisive.
If he'd got in, i think a National Education Service, a move away from conflict & obsession w/ immigration & press regulation would've been the making of Britain 2.0
If he'd got in, i think a National Education Service, a move away from conflict & obsession w/ immigration & press regulation would've been the making of Britain 2.0
But he did not get in.
He failed spectacularly to handle & kill off accusations of Anti-Semitism.
He failed spectacularly to unite his own party.
And he failed to pivot, to challenging the one key issue that was dominating the politics of his tenure: Brexit.
He failed spectacularly to handle & kill off accusations of Anti-Semitism.
He failed spectacularly to unite his own party.
And he failed to pivot, to challenging the one key issue that was dominating the politics of his tenure: Brexit.
I'm sure he's a nice guy. And he had some good ideas.
But that doth not a good leader make etc.
Thus far, i've been v impressed by Starmer.
The only thing i've yet to see from him is a full-on PR blitz to win over the tabloids.
But that doth not a good leader make etc.
Thus far, i've been v impressed by Starmer.
The only thing i've yet to see from him is a full-on PR blitz to win over the tabloids.
I mean sure... I hate them, u hate them, we *all* fucking HATE them.
But like it or not, tabloids govern the morning shows' news agenda & thus the day's stories
STEM owners / editors decide elections
Blair / Campbell knew that
Cameron knew that
I wonder if Starmer does
But like it or not, tabloids govern the morning shows' news agenda & thus the day's stories
STEM owners / editors decide elections
Blair / Campbell knew that
Cameron knew that
I wonder if Starmer does
