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This folks is what we call strawman
Creating a fake position the other side allegedly holds and then attempting to beat it
-- let me clarify views i hold--
1) men are concerned with a women's virginity not her hymen *per se*.
2) virginity means that the woman in question - https://twitter.com/ComicsByVieN/status/1354223055313113093
Creating a fake position the other side allegedly holds and then attempting to beat it
-- let me clarify views i hold--
1) men are concerned with a women's virginity not her hymen *per se*.
2) virginity means that the woman in question - https://twitter.com/ComicsByVieN/status/1354223055313113093
- has not yet had any sexual relation w a men before me.
3) now, how do we know that a woman is a virgin? One, she could tell us.
3) now, how do we know that a woman is a virgin? One, she could tell us.
4) However, people lie. Women in particular lie to reduce the idea that they're promiscuous and men lie the opposite way (that they get more poon than they do)
A) https://www.salon.com/2018/11/24/why-women-lie-about-sex/&ved=2ahUKEwiHqdjIz73uAhXsyDgGHWoXB-EQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1iq0OQzjXzfvVZqKipCtxc&cshid=1611802448302
B) https://www.apa.org/gradpsych/2013/09/gender-expectations&ved=2ahUKEwiHqdjIz73uAhXsyDgGHWoXB-EQFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw32_XaW2ILFhpGpkyIaVDwX&cshid=1611802448302
A) https://www.salon.com/2018/11/24/why-women-lie-about-sex/&ved=2ahUKEwiHqdjIz73uAhXsyDgGHWoXB-EQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1iq0OQzjXzfvVZqKipCtxc&cshid=1611802448302
B) https://www.apa.org/gradpsych/2013/09/gender-expectations&ved=2ahUKEwiHqdjIz73uAhXsyDgGHWoXB-EQFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw32_XaW2ILFhpGpkyIaVDwX&cshid=1611802448302
5) traditional societies have always known that we lie about the amount of sex we have (because we have incentive to.)
So, we need a proxy in which to determine the virginity of a woman
So, we need a proxy in which to determine the virginity of a woman
6) therefore, a proxy or an "indicator" of virginity is uses -the hymen.
Is it perfect? of course no. As pointed out by many of our liberal friends, you can damage them playing sports.
Is it perfect? of course no. As pointed out by many of our liberal friends, you can damage them playing sports.
EXCEPTIONS AND OUTLIERS DO NOT INVALIDATE GENERAL RULES
A HUMAN HAS FIVE FINGERS - A GENERAL FACT
Liberal Stupidity: "BUT BUT BUT.. WHAT ABOUT PPL BORN WITH SIX FINGERS?????"
A HUMAN HAS FIVE FINGERS - A GENERAL FACT
Liberal Stupidity: "BUT BUT BUT.. WHAT ABOUT PPL BORN WITH SIX FINGERS?????"
7) Using hymen is good enough as traditionally a general tool. Why?
i) traditionally, women weren't as active physically as men, therefore hymen not as threatened by "sukan
ii) GENERALLY women hv hymens (ye many don't)
iii) hymens GENERALLY do rip and tear as a result of sex
i) traditionally, women weren't as active physically as men, therefore hymen not as threatened by "sukan
ii) GENERALLY women hv hymens (ye many don't)
iii) hymens GENERALLY do rip and tear as a result of sex
EXCEPTIONS AND OUTLIERS DO NOT INVALIDATE GENERAL RULES
8) to obsess w Man' preoccupation with hymen is to miss the underlying concern.
That men generally desire women who have not had sexual relations w other men.
We have an innate desire to avoid hoes
That men generally desire women who have not had sexual relations w other men.
We have an innate desire to avoid hoes
9) what about "janda"? This is a stupid point to bring up.
We're not saying jandas don't deserve to be or that men can't marry them.
We're saying given a choice, a Man will prefer a virgin. And that is okay. That is natural.
If a man wants to marry a janda, good for them
We're not saying jandas don't deserve to be or that men can't marry them.
We're saying given a choice, a Man will prefer a virgin. And that is okay. That is natural.
If a man wants to marry a janda, good for them
There is a hadith that says by implication, if the piety of the girl is the same - and all else is the same -
The prophet encourages Men to marry young wives vs. widows.
The prophet encourages Men to marry young wives vs. widows.
BUT TO ENCOURAGE IS NOT TO SAY THAT WIDOWS AND JANDA CAN'T BE MARRIED
THEY CAN AND THEY SHOULD - BUT THE RANKS ARE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF PRIORITY
THEY CAN AND THEY SHOULD - BUT THE RANKS ARE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF PRIORITY
(I'm not even muslim ffs) and i know this.
10) so we've covered that men are concerned with the virginity of a woman and not her hymen per se.
He/Cultures just use hymens as proxy or circumstantial evidence if you will supporting her claims that she is a virgin
He/Cultures just use hymens as proxy or circumstantial evidence if you will supporting her claims that she is a virgin
11) what if she is a virgin but have no hymen?
Well she should bloody well explain to her husband why that is.
Vetting someone else's sexual past should be as normal as vetting someone's finance before marriage
Well she should bloody well explain to her husband why that is.
Vetting someone else's sexual past should be as normal as vetting someone's finance before marriage
12) now, biggest question why is virginity prized among men?
- answer: because it is a sign of sexual fedility and loyalty. A sign of the ability of women to pair bond with him and construct family units
- answer: because it is a sign of sexual fedility and loyalty. A sign of the ability of women to pair bond with him and construct family units
