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Allright folks. Time to make a thread today. Oh boy @SamAustinD5 you're going to want to pay attention to this cause when I do a deep dive. Do I do a deep dive. https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-27-information-morning-ns
This threads going to be put together 'organically' since Sam prefers to see things evolve organically. Kind of like a bunch of people helping the homeless when their givernment has failed to properly represent them for decades.
I'm going to find facts but I'm also going to address ideological issues. My biases lean towards focusing on the people and building direct democracy. It's pretty great. We need more of that. So let's get started, this is going to be a doozy.
The interview starts with sam talking about HRM policy of not evicting tents/shelters. And confirming what a lot of people have been disputing that the city DID PLAN TO TAKE DOWN A SHELTER.
You can agree with this or not. The fact is this was the plan.
You can agree with this or not. The fact is this was the plan.
The claim is that the shelter was empty and that HMA "found someone and moved them into it" here's a trend I'm seeing with Sam during this interview. He treats homeless people like they don't have a choice.
Has Sam ever lived on the streets? Does Sam realize that homeless People have autonomy? Has Sam asked these folks if they felt good about the shelter?
He also calls the shelters "shacks" a choice of wording I believe is deliberate.
He also calls the shelters "shacks" a choice of wording I believe is deliberate.
Sam also point out the second shelter was empty when it went up. How did they find someone within 24 hours to fill it then? This raises some serious questions. That sounds like there's some facts that Sam either doesn't know or isn't telling us. Got any words on that?
The dispute Sam is trying to build is over the erection of shelters where someone isn't already sleeping. But I've seen taprs and tents around benches where there's no land to put a shelter. Is it okay then for HMA to put up shelters on the side walk? I wouldn't think so.
Sam explains that these shelters are not a solution for homlessness. Wow. Here I was thinking that these people working in the shelters thought they were installing permanent homes.
Sam calls it a "terrible option" oh cool Sam glad to know your view on a shelter you're living in.... Oh wait. You're not the homeless people. I almost forget that with all his insights into the homelessness crisis.
Yeah. Sleeping in a tent or a bag or without any of that is worse. And if homeless people have the option to live in these shelters? Why would you take them down?
In 2018 there was almost 200 homeless people in halifax on record. https://www.homelesshub.ca/community-profile/halifax
I can tell you I have been a hidden homeless person. I know these stats are an underestimation.
I can tell you I have been a hidden homeless person. I know these stats are an underestimation.
As of 2021 almost 500 homeless are in record. https://www.ahans.ca/hrm-homelessness-statistics-2
This is a crisis that the city could have lobbied to get support. What's the purpose of a counsellor who doesn't fight for the people?
This is a crisis that the city could have lobbied to get support. What's the purpose of a counsellor who doesn't fight for the people?
I'm assuming they didn't cause if they did then what's the point if a counsel with no power?
Sam says they don't want to see a whole bunch of these shelters "popping up in places where people are not actually sleeping rough". So does the city keep track of this actually?
@SamAustinD5 maybe you can send that map to HMA instead of threatening to tear down their shelters. Unless it doesn't exist and then I'm curious how you know where tents are or aren't.
The interview goes on to talk about communication. And sam dances around saying no but... HMA has been in communicstion with the business improvement districts street navigators. Okay Sam. Nice hair splitting.
Do you know who the street navigators are halifax? https://navigatorstreetoutreach.ca/ they do homeless outreach.
@samaustinD5 keeps claiming making it seem like HMA isn't working with resorices. Stating they are creating "an encampment with no consultstion" or "supporting services" But right here he's telling us that they're in contact with resources. Is this a Lie sam austin?
Did I catch sam austin in a bald faced LIE?
that's not the end of it folks. Sam wants these camps to only go up where there's already tents cause those tents formed organically.
Um... Homeless people didn't organically become homeless. A lack of consiquences for landlords and developers and adequite minimum wage did.
Um... Homeless people didn't organically become homeless. A lack of consiquences for landlords and developers and adequite minimum wage did.
@ACORNCanada and @fightfor15hfx have played major roles in fighting these systems because our governments can't get their asses in gear. Now @MutualAidHfx is also working to help. It's honestly embarrassing to see the city fighting this instead of embrassing it as a resource.
But I think Sam reveals why the city is fighting it. His phone light up over the weekend cause phone were worried about a second shelter.
People are happy to see that homeless person they're used to get tucked away in a shelter. But to see a second homeless person they didn't know about now that's scary! This is prejudice.
The city is claiming they want to approach this with compassion but to me it looks like they're playing a PR game and the homeless population is a pawn in that game.
Sorry halifax but this city is home to homeless people as well. If you don't want to see your property values drop maybe support. Rent control. Landlord lisencing. Or hey maybe universal housing? Can we do that maybe?
Like no one was suggesting Sam points out this is not a solution to the underlying problem. Again. Who cares? It's helping even a little bit.
Sam Austin talks about how the city can only do so much. That the province has a lot to do with this as well. And he's not wrong. The provence is the major focus of campeigns run by @ACORNCanada and @fightfor15hfx
But is the provence really the only source of responsibility?
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/halifax/2019/10/08/halifax-council-takes-money-in-lieu-of-affordable-housing-units-in-willow-tree-development.html?espv=1
Hmm...
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/halifax/2019/10/08/halifax-council-takes-money-in-lieu-of-affordable-housing-units-in-willow-tree-development.html?espv=1
Hmm...
This is politics. The city is splitting hairs. I'm sick of seeing people play with the lives of impoverished people. @samaustinD5 you should be ashamed of yourself.
