We have now gone to the looney bin as a field where everyone wants to chime in with insane comments like “Well, long-toss isn’t good, because its a different release point” or...
“Strength doesn’t matter if they aren’t good at the sport” and my favorite in regards to pull-downs: “You aren’t allowed to sprint 30 yards before you pitch, so it can’t be applied.”
The point: Long toss is not meant to improve vertical release point, Nobody is advocating sucking sport and just be powerful and virtually nothing you will ever do in training (push-ups, tee work, L-screens, flat grounds) is ever going to meet the actual conditions of the sport.
So, throughout the thread I’ve put a bunch of exercises that actually exemplify some specificity for @baueroutage. No- none of it is the same as pitching. It’s not intended to be. They’re intended to either improve aspects of the physical demands of pitching...
or they’re intended to “blend” reinforce some of those qualities, so we don’t end up operating differently in a weight room than we do on a field. Oh, does that happen???

Consider this:



There is an enormous difference between learning a subject in school (the weight room) and being able to apply that knowledge in the real world (the sport). 
Tons of students go to top business schools, but they are disasters at operating a business. Why?

Tons of students go to top business schools, but they are disasters at operating a business. Why?