If someone has receipts of any fansite being removed from the blacklist, please share them. Because as far as I know, Big Hit didn't publish a new list before switching to Weverse, and they've never published a list on that platform.
And since we're on the topic...
And since we're on the topic...
"He always smiles at the camera so I don't think that fansite is bad."
At most daytime events, the best they'll be able to see is a wall of cameras. During performances, when the house lights are down and the stage lights are on, they'll see even less
(Pics aren't 875 specific)
At most daytime events, the best they'll be able to see is a wall of cameras. During performances, when the house lights are down and the stage lights are on, they'll see even less
(Pics aren't 875 specific)
The chances of recognizing individuals in a crowd of cameras is slim (even less of a chance if they're wearing a hat, a mask, or both). Keep in mind too that most fansite photos are taken at a distance (hence the reason they use the long, telephoto lenses).
If you watch vids of the event & compare them to the photos, often times the member is looking somewhere briefly as they walk or scanning the crowd and the photographer caught a lucky shot that makes it look like they're looking at the camera.
And when a shot or a video is taken at a distance, it's easy to make it seem like the member is smiling for the camera, when in reality they're just smiling at the whole section.
"He has photos from that fansite up in his apartment or studio so I don't think they're bad."
Having a gift displayed from a particular fansite doesn't necessarily mean approval. They might just like the photo itself, regardless of the photographer. When the guys were still
Having a gift displayed from a particular fansite doesn't necessarily mean approval. They might just like the photo itself, regardless of the photographer. When the guys were still
accepting fan gifts, it's unknown whether staff would leave them in the original wrapping, or if they'd just give them the items unwrapped after doing a safety check. Additionally, unless Big Hit was keeping a registry of gifts, I kind of doubt anyone would tell the guys to get
rid of a gift after a fan was blacklisted.
The reason I think it's unlikely is because of situations like this: when Headliner's messages were leaked where they cursed out ******** for not being "sufficiently appreciative" of his birthday presents.
https://www.knetizen.com/btss-top-seeds-conversation-leaked-creating-a-mess-in-the-fandom-right-now/
The reason I think it's unlikely is because of situations like this: when Headliner's messages were leaked where they cursed out ******** for not being "sufficiently appreciative" of his birthday presents.
https://www.knetizen.com/btss-top-seeds-conversation-leaked-creating-a-mess-in-the-fandom-right-now/
That fansite might be an anomaly, or they could be the norm. It's hard to know for sure. But there's a lot at stake for the guys if they piss off fans that hold a lot of social currency or influence. Visibly removing a gift might cause a backlash. But that's just my guess.
Going back to the blacklist: Big Hit doesn't ban fans lightly. The handful of times they've revoked fan club privileges and published a blacklist is for serious infractions of the rules aka traveling on the same flight as the guys, taking pictures of them on private schedules or
in restricted zones (in the case of airports, this means anything past the security checkpoint). Those rules are in place to ensure the physical and mental wellbeing of the guys.
And to be clear, Big Hit is unfortunately unable to identify everyone who breaks the rules.
And to be clear, Big Hit is unfortunately unable to identify everyone who breaks the rules.
They wear masks avoid being identified, and Bit Hit isn't law enforcement. During incidents, they can't just question or detain people who break the fan club rules, but who aren't violating actual laws. They can bring legal action against individuals if they get proof they're
buying flight info or other personal info, but that's hard to prove.
But they can blacklist known rule breakers. And the staff often are able to recognize fansites after dealing with them frequently at concerts, fanmeets, etc. https://twitter.com/btbtbtsssssss_/status/1126201922338394113?s=19
But they can blacklist known rule breakers. And the staff often are able to recognize fansites after dealing with them frequently at concerts, fanmeets, etc. https://twitter.com/btbtbtsssssss_/status/1126201922338394113?s=19
But when you get right down to it, you shouldn't have to wait for Big Hit's blacklist to decide how you feel about fansites.
Taehyung spoke out about fans crossing boundaries like in a vlive in 2019 (starts near the end after 34:10) https://www.vlive.tv/video/165723
Taehyung spoke out about fans crossing boundaries like in a vlive in 2019 (starts near the end after 34:10) https://www.vlive.tv/video/165723
It may not seem like a big deal, but refer back to the point above about Headliner. It's a big deal for any of the guys to speak negatively about fans, because the backlash the risk - particularly from fans that hold as much social currency as fansites - is huge.
"Not all fansites are bad." I agree. But for me, watching a pattern of behaviour from enough fansites for the past 3.5 years is enough for me to stop consuming their content. This thread is great for explaining many incidents https://twitter.com/agustdickian_/status/1168380989128630273?s=19
So it's your call. But here's what it comes down to: do you want to support a charity project that increases the influence of someone who has, might of, or might in the future negatively affect the mental health of the guys? Because that's the risk you run when you support
fansite birthday projects (and I say that as someone who used to buy fansite goods for birthday projects).
Also, if you want to donate for one of the guys birthdays, you can always make a donation independently. We don't always have to group everything together in projects.
Also, if you want to donate for one of the guys birthdays, you can always make a donation independently. We don't always have to group everything together in projects.
Your money will still be helping a good cause! And you can share it with the birthday boy (or all the guys) on Weverse.
There are also loads of non-fansite, fanbase and individually managed birthday projects. So don't feel like joining fansite projects is the only way to support
There are also loads of non-fansite, fanbase and individually managed birthday projects. So don't feel like joining fansite projects is the only way to support
And this thread lays out the history of this particular fansite for new ARMY https://twitter.com/honeymoonjoon/status/1349128214657044481?s=19