TW - depression, suicide, self harm

As someone who struggles w/ suicidal thoughts and used to self harm, trust me, the last thing we need is for you to talk about iman and doa when we struggle with these types of mental health issues.

This is a thread. https://twitter.com/muzzashark/status/1348114881690574848
people who commit suicide usually don't do it on a whim. trust me, they have TRIED to be better. tried to seek help, tried to find reasons to keep living.

but when push comes to shove, they end up seeing no other way than to take their own life. you think these people don't want
to be happy? you think depression is a choice for them? you think they "forgot about God" tulah "iman" mereka lemah sampai rasa nak bunuh diri?

news flash: you can't put a spiritual bandage on a psychological wound.

maybe some ppl are comforted by doa, but most of us who
struggle with mental health issues often find little solace in prayers. bukan sebab lemah iman, no. but like i said, it is a psychological problem, not a matter of our spiritual strength.
I don't really like the original thread.

Firstly, no trigger warnings.

Secondly, it is tone deaf to the struggles people with mental health issues are facing. Seriously? "Semua orang rasa benda sama"? How much more ignorant could you be?
"Tak mati pun kalau grade tak cantik"

Sure pasal grade diorg je tula diorg rasa depressed nak bunuh diri? Sure diorg takde issue lain like family problems, financial issue, etc?

You know nothing about the victims. Know nothing about what might lead them to take their own life.
I can commend the original thread's effort to comfort those who are struggling with mental health problems. I do think suicide is not and never should be the answer to stop your problems but at the same time, I think shoving suggestions like that without TRYING to
properly empathize with the other person's situation shows how ignorant and uneducated you are about mental health. Often, those who are facing dark times don't need advice. Especially unsolicited ones. They just want to know they're understood. That they're not alone.
What you CAN do to help your friends that struggle with depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, and self harm is to ASK them what they need from you. Do they want a listener? Do they want advice? Or just the comfort of having a friend there with them?
NEVER give unsolicited advice. Especially tone death ones. Saying "Bro aku pun murung juga kadang2 tapi aku tak nak bunuh diri pun. Jangan la macam ni. Semua orang pun susah" won't help them, and instead would make suicidal people MORE suicidal cause they realise no one really
understands them. Paling senang, just say you are there for them. If they need anything, you will be there. You will listen to them. Tapi these words must match with your actions. Show them you care. Show them you will be there when times are hard.
THE WORST thing you could do to people with mental health issues is to judge them without properly understanding their story and to SHOVE words and labels like "kau lupa Tuhan" "pray more" "iman kau dah lemah tula depressed" to their face
Just stop labelling others. Stop acting holier-than-thou. Stop judging the suicide victims. Just stop being an asshole by being ignorant to mental health problems.

Be kind. You never know what is going on behind closed doors. You don't know what others have to go thru.
Also I would like to add, suicide victims often wouldn't take their own life bcs of one sole reason.

Studies, relationships,.. those could just be the tip of the iceberg. What you don't see is the other problems and pressure they may have been dealing with silently.
Read this and educate yourself. https://twitter.com/___FAREED/status/1315891409283620864?s=19
why people won't speak up about their mental health problems and what you CAN do to help those struggling with mental health.
!!! https://twitter.com/qistinastudio/status/998181859682009094?s=19
https://twitter.com/FALLINFLAWS/status/1347484050055778310?s=19
One of the most important things to bear in mind when you're trying to help those with mental health problems is to listen to understand, not to respond. Just listen and try to empathize with their situation.
an important thread https://twitter.com/farahark_/status/1348216063327051776?s=19
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