Thread by @braidedmanga, Ivor Cummins has been wrong (or lying) almost entirely throughout this pandemic [...]

Ivor Cummins has been wrong (or lying) almost entirely throughout this pandemic and got paid handsomly for it.

He has been wrong (or lying) so often that it will be nearly impossible for me to track every grift, lie, deceit, manipulation he has pulled. I will use...

... other sources who have been trying to shine on light on this grifter (as I have tried to do, time and again: https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1328664251846815745)

https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1328664251846815745

Example #1: "Still not seeing Sweden signal versus Denmark really"... There it was (Images attached).
19 to 80 is an over 300% difference.

Tweet: https://archive.vn/qiq4G

Example #2 - "Yes, I'm comparing the Noridcs / No, you cannot compare the Nordics."

I wonder why...

Tweets: https://archive.vn/ZAGbx / https://archive.vn/FUALZ

Example #3 - "I'm only looking at what makes the data fit in my favour" a.k.a moving the goalposts.

Tweets: https://archive.vn/skd9S / https://archive.vn/tmTaz

Example #4 - "You need to look at all the varibles, but I don't"

Tweet: https://archive.vn/0J3wL
Video:
Final graph with all restrictions for Ireland @StuartDNeilson

Examples #5-#18 - https://threader.app/thread/1307572931766165504

various goalpost shifting, ignorance of facts, logic, data, science

h/t @jocami_ca

A thread written by @jocami_ca

Ivor Cummins @FatEmperor is a youtuber that has been wrong many times about Covid19, here are some examples of his fails and contradictions #FailEmperor 👇

https://threader.app/thread/1307572931766165504

Example #19 - "I'm going to include that study even though I don't know what it says" (see some of previous tweets examples)

^ Ivor's theme of Lockdowns don't work, don't match the papers' findings.

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Example #20 - Spreading misinformation from a right-wing anti-vaccine group spokesperson

Ivor's widespread video debunked:
source video:

Image source: https://archive.vn/Agb25

Example #21 - "You're talking about selective lockdown. It doesn't work! / Let's do that thing that doesn't work! People dying never felt so good!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/GPQmr / https://archive.vn/zeude

Great Barrington Declaration debunked: https://www.johnsnowmemo.com/ ...

... #21 contd - https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140-6736(20)32153-x, , https://threader.app/thread/1314608597003771905, https://threader.app/thread/1330164070180397058, https://threader.app/thread/1338195235701198848 ---

A thread written by @greg_travis

Time for a mini-expose' of the vile monsters (Gupta @SunetraGupta, Bhattacharya Kulldorff @MartinKulldorff , et. al) behind the "Great Barrington Declaration" (GBD) We'll go top-down, as is my...

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140-6736(20)32153-x

Example #22 - "We are in a casedemic! / Uh oh! I was wrong... That was a creature of the Summer! / Uh oh! That still doesn't make any sense!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/GPQmr / https://archive.vn/qRqEA

h/t: @greg_travis: https://threader.app/thread/1335977701631545345 ---

Example #23 - "I have never been debunked! Even when I was! I wasn't! Liar Liar Pants On Bloody Fire You Guys!"

Ivor really says that: https://twitter.com/search?q=liar%20liar%20pants%20(from%3Afatemperor)&src=typed_query

Tweet: https://archive.vn/8Fc7I

@DrDomPimenta debunking Ivor:
,
...

https://twitter.com/search?q=liar%20liar%20pants%20(from%3Afatemperor)&src=typed_query

... #23 cont. - ,
https://threader.app/thread/1305861383607771137
https://threader.app/thread/1306950058391281665
& as above.

A thread written by @DrDomPimenta

Ivor @fatemperor has helpfully resubmitted his latest video for a second review: Unfortunately we still found significantly misleading and pseudoscientific assertions. Full video: https://www.youtu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKGYKVNDS1Y&t=195s

... #23 cont. - https://www.businesspost.ie/coronavirus/ivor-cummins-the-hardcore-problem-solver-who-experts-claim-is-talking-rubbish-on-covid-19-cc0a1cf3 [ https://archive.vn/o8IMO ]

Ivor Cummins: the ‘hardcore problem solver’ who experts claim is talk…

archived 8 Nov 2020 10:00:38 UTC

https://www.businesspost.ie/coronavirus/ivor-cummins-the-hardcore-problem-solver-who-experts-claim-is-talking-rubbish-on-covid-19-cc0a1cf3

... #23 cont. - https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/ [ https://archive.vn/N99GV ]

Can we believe the lockdown sceptics? - Full Fact

archived 6 Jan 2021 00:06:16 UTC

https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/

#24 - "No second wave... without a second virus! BOOM! I said it! It's fact! and coronaviruses can't even mutate much anyway! BOOM! oh, this one did? NO second wave... EVER! BOOM! haha! :-) I've never been debunked!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/Sn4lv / https://archive.vn/jcxzb

Example #25 - Ivor's implemented idea for passive resistance highlights his own misuse of data...

Tweet: https://archive.vn/PWujz
Website: https://archive.vn/LUj4q

Evidence: https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346820534873559040 --

Example #25 - Ivor's implemented idea for passive resistance highlights his own misuse of data... Tweet: https://archive.vn/PWujz Website: https://archive.vn/LUj4q Evidence: https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346820534873559040 --

#25 cont. - Clickable evidence link because it cut off - https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346820534873559040 ---

https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346820534873559040

Example #26 - Ivor's implemented idea for "passive" resistance is likely to lead to complacency, as people in the sea of yellow smiles may feel more comfortable to break the rules.

Ivor: "So fucking what?"

Tweet: https://archive.vn/zFlxm ---

Example #27 - "Masks don't work! But if you HAVE to or whatever, MY SON! remember! HE SAID IT! I'm just showing hundreds of thousands of people! my SON! said maybe remove the protection from them to breathe more better."

Tweet: https://archive.vn/6izXd ---

Example #28 - "You're an eejit, you can't use OurWorldInData, that uses deaths BADGED with PCR and currently doesn't make me look good!

Source: https://archive.vn/wip/wNhsY ...

... #28 cont. - "only I get to use OurWorldInData!!"

Tweets: http://archive.vn/3JeXb , http://archive.vn/IgyAB , http://archive.vn/9Zc1l

... #28 cont. - "ONS data is the only REAL data, eejit, that's why you have to trust Smoel Jalley of the fake graph in the Daily Mail fame and NOT the OFFICIAL numbers from the ONS"

... #28 - cont

Official Sources: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights, https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

#29 - "masks work."

*Crickets*

"Masks don't work" *audience grows*

Tweets: https://archive.vn/0xIYU , https://archive.vn/iSqjp ----

... #29 cont. "and just as a reminder guys I am a content creator by trade, money me for that. me a money needing a lot now thanks a lot."

Example #30 - "i'm a reasonable guy, i'm just asking you to follow the data, but just don't LOOK at the data, OK? please for the LOVE OF GOD! please! don't look at the fucking data! send me cash"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/hOm7i , https://archive.vn/bNBbi

Data (next:)...

... #30 cont. - Data: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights, further: https://threader.app/thread/1346751126637604864, https://threader.app/thread/1346860617735532544 ---

A thread written by @NickStripe_ONS

THREAD – Mortality 2020 Today we published England & Wales mortality statistics for the w/e 25 Dec Nearly a full year’s data for 2020 In the last 52 weeks there were: c.604k deaths registered across...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights

Example #31 - "Flu is low because a GP said and also complex virome ! IDIOT !"

Tweet: https://archive.vn/QhnSw

completely untrue and also makes no sense because multiple strains of Coronavirus AND Influenza are currently in circulation rn

data: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/fluportaldashboard.html...

... #31 continued - https://www.who.int/csr/don/04-january-2021-influenza-a-brazil/en/ ---

Influenza A(H1N2) variant virus – Brazil

On 15 December 2020, the Brazil Ministry of Health reported the second confirmed human infection with influenza A(H1N2) variant virus [A(H1N2)v] in Brazil in 2020.

https://www.who.int/csr/don/04-january-2021-influenza-a-brazil/en/

Example #32 "Distancing works just as well or better than society destroying lockdowns, eejits / oh, you think distancing works? you fucking eejit. now make the check out to I V O R"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/8XkjP , https://archive.vn/MhJFP , https://archive.vn/BpUGU ---

... #32 contd. - distancing measures only will actually have a substantial effect on the economy also and fight the virus slower. countries that fought harder and opened sooner see quicker economic growth.
also, ireland, his own country, saw a GDP rise in Q3...

... #32 contd. - despite tough measures all year. complex situations gonna complex, Ivor.
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2020/09/30/world-economic-outlook-october-2020, https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/gdp-growth ---

World Economic Outlook, October 2020: A Long and Difficult Ascent

The global economy is climbing out from the depths to which it had plummeted during the Great Lockdown in April. But with the COVID-19 pandemic continuing to spread, many countries have slowed...

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2020/09/30/world-economic-outlook-october-2020

Example #33 - "believe the DATA you eejits, send me money. / no, no, @cjsnowdon is a fucking moran. he didn't edit the data like I do. send me money."

Tweets: https://archive.vn/hOm7i / https://archive.vn/Y4Dpp

@cjsnowdon's great thread: (next):...

... #33 contd - https://threader.app/thread/1346887942120341506 ---

A thread written by @cjsnowdon

Ivor the Engineer has produced a new video and it's a doozy. He claims the UK is not experiencing a second wave. It's just a little "winter resurgence" as he supposedly predicted. 1/ https://t.co/W...

https://threader.app/thread/1346887942120341506

Example #34 - "Covid-19 is seasonal you guys! It seasonally struck in spring. DUH! and it will OBVIOUSLY strike again in winter. DUH! It's SO obvious let's just pretend that March and April are winter"...

... #34 contd - actual direct quote "you must compare SEASONS. this is crucial" *continues to highlight winter and spring from four years as one season*...

... #34 contd - although maybe he just meant compare FLU seasons. then the boxes make even LESS sense as the flu season starts at different times depending on multiple factors "in the virome" https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1337841417343873025?s=20 --- ...

https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1337841417343873025?s=20

... #34 contd - the flu "season" can start early / late and is known by monitoring the YEAR ROUND presence of influenza and seeing when levels exceed the baseline endemic level and become seasonally epidemic.

Example #35 - "cycles? CT? They're the same thing, right? ah, fuck it. send tweet"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/labPW , https://archive.vn/wuY9W

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Ivor Cummins on Twitter: "https://t.co/lA16QjXZR3"

archived 7 Jan 2021 07:38:18 UTC

https://archive.vn/labPW

... #35 contd - desperately adore how @MackayIM is tagged, Ian has done many threads on how PCR actually works and, listen, it's COMPLEX, but the BASICS of it (cycles vs ct) are EASY to grasp.

They COULD run it to 1,000 cycles. Still wouldn't be guaranteed positive...

...#35 contd - covid testing SOP: https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/03/guidance-and-sop-covid-19-virus-testing-in-nhs-laboratories-v1.pdf

Also, if any lab were fudging results, they wouldn't need to adjust the cycles ran for. That's a waste of time and resources.
That's just plain conspiracy nonsense...

... #35 contd - here are some of Ian's blogs and threads on PCR. follow the DATA. https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1345487701399764993?s=19
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Example #36 - "all these pharma shills have sold out and can't be trusted / I'm gonna sell out, you can trust me"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/FzRDY ,
https://archive.vn/VGK9s ...

... #36 contd - context, Ivor went from understanding masks and viral transmission to building an audience for his hatred of them suddenly. he then was trying to get some paper out and it includes some recommendations he was fighting against himself, cause, you know...

... #36 contd - he's a charlatan, but people actually read it and saw through him as the compromised person he is, out to make money and he'll do whatever he can

Unfortunately not enough people.

Tweet: https://archive.vn/8461K
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Example #37 - "WHY don't they listen to EXPERTS? / OH, they're listening to Giesecke? <3 stan Giesecke for clear skin!!!!, oh, Giesecke said what now? not interested, thanks!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/oEsCo , https://archive.vn/MBUpf

News source: https://archive.vn/33qc2

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... #37 contd. - "why don't they listen to the experts that I tell them to!!! I WANNA BE A BIG BOY SCIENTIST WHEN I GROW UP!!!!!!!!! TAKE ME SERIOUS!!!!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/oEsCo , https://archive.vn/XnxDD ---

... #37 - re: experts.

the experts Ivor wants people to listen to are wrong: https://threader.app/thread/1341563596405354496, https://threader.app/thread/1341183815176364038, https://threader.app/thread/1343833264499392515, https://threader.app/thread/1312645313581273088, https://threader.app/thread/1319451862123356160 ---

A thread written by @AtomsksSanakan

Suneptra Gupta of the Great Barrington Declaration said ~0.05% of people infected w/ SARS-CoV-2 die of COVID-19 So England's ~44,000 reported COVID-19 deaths would imply ~88 million infected people...

https://threader.app/thread/1341563596405354496

... #37 - re: Sweden vs. Ireland

repeat after me

they

are

different

countries

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... #37 re: experts (II)

how can you tell who to listen to? (especially online?)
well, they're usually at least sensible and have a better track record than zero
https://twitter.com/hashtag/PredictionWasCorrecttag_click

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1220869298631200769
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/PredictionWasCorrect?src=hashtag_click

Example #38 - "now, remember guys the ONLY METRIC is whatever the fuck I tell you it is, and that's CRUCIAL!"

Tweets: https://archive.vn/aDgpY , https://archive.vn/TDXaw , https://archive.vn/8xWoA , https://archive.vn/HzdUb , https://archive.vn/ecsj2 ---

... #38 cont - "and remember guys, it's really important that you only look at MY data, not the fancy schmancy real world data from the 'experts' who are totally biased, unlike me, i mean, i like football! i'm a cool guy!, look how many goalposts I have"

... #38 cont - re: flu season comparison

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1347200811303055364
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https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1347200811303055364

... #38 contd. - re: all-cause mortality comparison

https://twitter.com/Glenntwts/status/1345437500005900290

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https://twitter.com/Glenntwts/status/1345437500005900290

Example #39 - flat out bias and cherry picking data.

Tweets: https://archive.is/T

Why? Featured in article. Data only from Ireland and one months hospitalisation figures...

... #39 contd. - this commenter doesn't seem to get that if there's a more infectious virus going around that it adds to the probability of being hospitalised. (More diseases, more chances)
Might have something to do with Ivor's use of low-seeming odds...

... #39 contd - and even if the odds WERE that low, the infectious nature of the disease will make the chance of hospitals filling up quickly more likely if we become complacent and think our individual risk is low vs our societal risk is high...

... #39 contd - forgetting lockdown, we're really not being asked to do much to prevent infection. Reduce contacts, mask indoors, ventilate, wash hands, be extra careful around vulnerable people, maybe meet outdoors instead, attend your test appointment!!!!!!

Tweets didn't paste correctly: https://archive.is/TM9NG https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1347242450167984137?s=19

Need to correct this: Joel Smalley wasn't responsible for that graph, his graphs are misleading, but that one wasn't his!

Literally no one pointed that out to me, but I'm not about to besmirch him extra for what he didn't do

Point still stands... https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346897915617435648?s=19

https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1346897915617435648?s=19

... RE: ONS, always check the official source.

as for who DID do the fake graph... well, good to have threads in your back pocket?
Tweet: https://archive.vn/b4kbZ

and that fake graph was outed in November

Follow up: https://archive.vn/VduKa

https://threader.app/thread/1330830796966518785

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Couldn't have timed that better, Ivor decides to just retweet Mr. Fake Graph himself.

Example #40 - Ivor still doesn't know what endemic or epidemic mean.

https://archive.vn/giSsD

... #40 cont - context: as i've explained before, we are in a pandemic, but Ivor seems to consider that over because he prefers to look at deaths and considers covid-19 seasonal, and it will come back as an "endemic winter resurgence", but 1) it first hit in spring...

... #40 cont. - 2) a flu season is the time when Influenza levels push deaths past the epidemic threshold.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

not only has it never ceased to be an epidemic (this is US data), but by definition seasonal Influenza is an epidemic.

@BadCOVID19Takes

https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1347291080165830659 <-

I linked the wrong Tweet! ->this one, https://archive.vn/JKAUd
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https://twitter.com/braidedmanga/status/1347291080165830659

Example #41 - "I was right!!! Hahahah!! I was right!!!"

No. He wasn't. Not even close.

Tweet: https://archive.is/wip/6HhQA

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...#41 contd - so, here's the cherry-picked excerpt Ivor shows to highlight that he "correctly" predicted the winter resurrection, but his video on September 8th had this as an inconsequential remark.

...#41 contd - Ivor argued for what a second wave should look like (note: he's only use a rolling 7 day average for COVID-19 deaths, not euromomo all-cause, that's moving the goalposts, so I'm going to show that.

... #41 contd - NOTE: this is only by Ivor's playbook. An epidemic is based on infections over what's expected but let's play by Ivor's ideas here. By his logic, these are second or third waves, not "seasonal resurgences"

... #41 contd - even spain got up pretty high, and that was before the typical influenza season peak, and definitely before the first covid-19 SPRING peak (different season

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... #41 contd - even spain got up pretty high, and that was before the typical influenza season peak, and definitely before the first covid-19 SPRING peak (different season )

...#41 contd. - but wait, there's more! Ivor goes on an extended rant about how we didn't have "safe spread" in the Summer like Sweden, so our winter will be worse than theirs.
It's a really deranged rant and doesn't hold up at all.

... #41 contd - here's Sweden's definitely second wave despite Ivor's firm stance that they did the right thing by following WHO's influenza guidelines and having "safe spread" in the summer. (AND their deaths are by date of registration, so this will be updated after the fact)