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So this weekend you heard from our friends @BukuRenal that mismanagement of IV fluids can cause harm.
A group we’d like to highlight who can come to serious harm from
/
fluids is patients with
DIABETES INSIPIDUS
See below
#medtwitter #FOAMed
A group we’d like to highlight who can come to serious harm from
/ fluids is patients with DIABETES INSIPIDUS See below
#medtwitter #FOAMed
Diabetes insipidus (DI) is the inability to hold onto water due to lack of /resistance to ADH.
Remember ADH is released as serum osmolality to renal water reabsorption, but in patients with DI this doesn’t occur and so they pass large vol watery urine - can be >10L/day!
Remember ADH is released as serum osmolality
to renal water reabsorption, but in patients with DI this doesn’t occur and so they pass large vol watery urine - can be >10L/day!
Note diabetes insipidus has nothing to do with glucose/sugar like diabetes mellitus! 
Misunderstandings are so common (even with HCPs) that there is a campaign to change the name to "pituitary insipidus"
#NoTimeToDI
Misunderstandings are so common (even with HCPs) that there is a campaign to change the name to "pituitary insipidus"
#NoTimeToDI
Cranial DI (ADH not released) is usually due to pituitary/hypothalamic surgery, infiltration (inflammation/malignancy - rare) or head trauma. Can also be genetic.
Pituitary adenomas themselves can cause lots of hormone dysfunction, but don't typically cause DI.
Pituitary adenomas themselves can cause lots of hormone dysfunction, but don't typically cause DI.
Nephrogenic DI (ADH resistance) can be caused by
- renal disease
- electrolytes ( K, Ca – hence why hyperCa is dehydrating)
- drugs - can be seen with up to 15% of people taking LITHIUM
- renal disease
- electrolytes (
K, Ca – hence why hyperCa is dehydrating) - drugs - can be seen with up to 15% of people taking LITHIUM
Outwith the neurosurgical ward, you are most likely to come across patients with a prior established diagnosis of DI.
They may have multiple other hormone deficiencies (e.g. cortisol, thyroid, sex hormones, growth hormone).
They may have multiple other hormone deficiencies (e.g. cortisol, thyroid, sex hormones, growth hormone).
When well, people with DI can usually manage their fluid balance (and sodium) by drinking in response to thirst.
Adding synthetic ADH (desmopressin) – nasal spray or tablet – also helps by UO and so polyuria/nocturia when given at
- can be very important for QOL!
Adding synthetic ADH (desmopressin) – nasal spray or tablet – also helps by
UO and so polyuria/nocturia when given at - can be very important for QOL!
In hospital this balance can go wrong:
–
fluid losses (e.g. fever, vomiting)-
access to meds and/or fluids (esp if confused, drowsy, NBM etc) = profound dehydration and
Na despite “reassuring” UO Sadly this has led to several deaths.
So what can you do?
1.RECOGNISE DI – from PMHx, drug hx, medic alert, electronic record alert and SHARE INFO WITH TEAM
-> rare condition often = awareness
2.Give usual desmo -
CRITICAL MED
3.Alert endo team
4.Monitor – Na AT LEAST DAILY, fluid in/out
1.RECOGNISE DI – from PMHx, drug hx, medic alert, electronic record alert and SHARE INFO WITH TEAM
-> rare condition often =
awareness2.Give usual desmo -
CRITICAL MED3.Alert endo team
4.Monitor – Na AT LEAST DAILY, fluid in/out
Na (i.e. dehydration) is concerning:1.Consider
level care and d/w specialist asap2.Give desmo – can be given IV/IM (get help w conversion!) if usual routes not available
3.Aim to bring down Na SLOWLY with fluids (<10mmol/24h)
5.
Na e.g. 4hrly, fluid in/out..
Na can also occur:- those taking Desmopressin will struggle to excrete excesses if given too much fluid
- d/w specialist - may require Desmopressin dose change or delay to allow for controlled diuresis
Allow pt to take fluid orally (v IV) if possible so can self-regulate
How confident are you in caring for people with DI?
Did you know the Society for Endocrinology has published advice about DI for non-specialists?
You can find that here https://ec.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/ec/7/7/EC-18-0154.xml
Did you know the Society for Endocrinology has published advice about DI for non-specialists?
You can find that here
https://ec.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/ec/7/7/EC-18-0154.xml
