Listening to the full 1 hour call between Trump and GA officials is mind-numbing.
They sit back and let him go on, promoting all kinds of insane conspiracy theories — which no court saw any evidence of — and it’s like, one of those, “give him enough rope….”
They sit back and let him go on, promoting all kinds of insane conspiracy theories — which no court saw any evidence of — and it’s like, one of those, “give him enough rope….”
After a while Meadows realizes that Trump sounds like he’s out of his mind, so he jumps in and basically says, look, can’t we come to an agreement here and you do what we want without this being about the courts?
In other words — do the coup, nicely.
In other words — do the coup, nicely.
Then Raffensberger says, we looked at everything, over and over, had investigations, legislature looked at it, and we had recounts. Says the Dominion machines couldn’t have been off b/c we did hand recount.
Trump jumps in, and says, well we haven’t we needed to go to Dominion..
Trump jumps in, and says, well we haven’t we needed to go to Dominion..
“in your state.” Says we “could go through "your Dominion” issues, but “with what we have, we're giving you minimal numbers, we’re many times above the margins.”
He sort of throws Meadows under bus, says, we don’t care about getting all the votes, just “2 votes” to win is good
He sort of throws Meadows under bus, says, we don’t care about getting all the votes, just “2 votes” to win is good
Because Meadows was trying to be more *logical,* saying Dominion is a problem and thus a problem everywhere — and Trump was like, we don’t need Georgia’s Dominion issues, basically throwing out 10 other conspiracies that get them to win without Dominion issues.
This is nuts.
This is nuts.
Raffensperger then goes to dead people — says there was not, as Trump claimed, 5000 or so dead people who voted.
Cleta Mitchell then comes claiming GA hasn’t given the records over.
Trump then cuts in, throws her under bus.
Basically saying — we don’t need the dead people.
Cleta Mitchell then comes claiming GA hasn’t given the records over.
Trump then cuts in, throws her under bus.
Basically saying — we don’t need the dead people.
Trump then starts accusing a woman of ballot-stuffing. Her name is bleeped out over and over again.
He says this person and what she did gets them to the over 11K votes they need.
Raffensperger then says Rudy completely edited a video, none of that happened.
He says this person and what she did gets them to the over 11K votes they need.
Raffensperger then says Rudy completely edited a video, none of that happened.
Trump then starts talking about a water main break.
He’s arguing the fraud happened during the water main break.
He’s arguing the fraud happened during the water main break.
“Everyone had to run out of the room” during the water main break.
"Where were the security guards?”
Cleta Mitchell pops in — Trump cuts her off, throws her under bus again.
"Where were the security guards?”
Cleta Mitchell pops in — Trump cuts her off, throws her under bus again.
They start talking about people who moved out of state and moved back — as Raffensperger says, “years ago.”
Trump continually kills his arguments by cutting off people on his own side who are trying to lay out the argument in a more measured way.
Then Trump goes to Dominion.
Trump continually kills his arguments by cutting off people on his own side who are trying to lay out the argument in a more measured way.
Then Trump goes to Dominion.
Even though he’d earlier said he didn’t care about Dominion.
Then he says we hear “rumors” of people “shredding” thousands of ballots.
Raffesberger says, you can’t go by social media.
Trump says “oh no, this isn’t social media, this is Trump media."
Then he says we hear “rumors” of people “shredding” thousands of ballots.
Raffesberger says, you can’t go by social media.
Trump says “oh no, this isn’t social media, this is Trump media."
I forgot to say, just before the last statement, Trump let out a hideous noise — something between a loud grumble and a roar. From deep in the throat.
“Groooooouwww” something like that.
“Groooooouwww” something like that.
Then Trump is on the signature-verification, which is a ludicrous issue.
“You have many that are forgeries. You know that, you know that. No doubt about that.”
"Fulton County is totally corrupt. They’re laughing at you Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re all laughing."
“You have many that are forgeries. You know that, you know that. No doubt about that.”
"Fulton County is totally corrupt. They’re laughing at you Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re all laughing."
The Trump says I think you’re going to find that they are “shredding the ballots” currently. Because they have to "get rid of the ballots.” And they’re “moving machinery” currently.
Trump says to raffensberger, “you know about this” and that’s a criminal offense" on your part, “I’m notifying you about that now.”
They right there, after the threat, he says:
"So look, all I want to is to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have…and flipping the state is a great testament to a country. A great testament to admitting a mistake…"
"So look, all I want to is to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have…and flipping the state is a great testament to a country. A great testament to admitting a mistake…"
Raffensperger’s lawyer says, we’re seeing none of these things. We’ve looked and are still looking at every one of these things.
"What we’re seeing is not at all what you’re describing.”
Trump says, "check on the ballots, because they’re shredding ballots” right now.
"What we’re seeing is not at all what you’re describing.”
Trump says, "check on the ballots, because they’re shredding ballots” right now.
Then Trump starts going into provisional ballots and claiming fraud there — again, all this has been proven false, didn’t hold up in court.
Everyone else in WH has learned on this call to not even jump in and try to help Trump — because you’ll be thrown under bus.
Everyone else in WH has learned on this call to not even jump in and try to help Trump — because you’ll be thrown under bus.
So everyone else is silent.
At one point Cleta Mitchell, tries again to say something , when he asks about military ballots -- he shuts her up.
"Cleta wait, I’m not asking you."
At one point Cleta Mitchell, tries again to say something , when he asks about military ballots -- he shuts her up.
"Cleta wait, I’m not asking you."
Trump: “Many criminal events here."
"Look Brad, I have to find 12,000 votes — and I have them times a lot. That’s before we go to the next step which we’re in the process of now.” (Jan 6.)
“I just don’t know why you don’t want the votes counted as they are.”
"Look Brad, I have to find 12,000 votes — and I have them times a lot. That’s before we go to the next step which we’re in the process of now.” (Jan 6.)
“I just don’t know why you don’t want the votes counted as they are.”
Trump:
“So what are we gonna do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Gimme a break!”
“So what are we gonna do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Gimme a break!”
Trump then starts attacking the alleged woman who allegedly stuffed the ballots during the water main break.
We hear much bleeping of her name. Raffesperger says we looked into that situation -- as he’d stated they found nothing.
Trump: “Why do you keep fighting this?”
We hear much bleeping of her name. Raffesperger says we looked into that situation -- as he’d stated they found nothing.
Trump: “Why do you keep fighting this?”
Trump:
"I think you have to say you want to reexamine this. And find answers.”
Trump keeps saying this or that supposed fraud wins him the election — but even if he won Georgia, he doesn’t win the election.
Raffensperger again assures him all checked out.
"I think you have to say you want to reexamine this. And find answers.”
Trump keeps saying this or that supposed fraud wins him the election — but even if he won Georgia, he doesn’t win the election.
Raffensperger again assures him all checked out.
Trump:
“I know this phone calls going no where. Ultimately — I win.”
“I know this phone calls going no where. Ultimately — I win.”
Trump then starts attacking Brian Kemp — "he’s a disaster!” -- then asks,
"Why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer Brad, instead of keep saying the numbers are right?"
"Why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer Brad, instead of keep saying the numbers are right?"
Cleta Mitchell tries again, says we can’t get a judge to listen to us.
Her logic seems to be — and she’s a lawyer — since we can’t get a judge to listen to us, you have to do something.
She then starts talking Dominion again — Trump cuts her off, throws her under bus.
Her logic seems to be — and she’s a lawyer — since we can’t get a judge to listen to us, you have to do something.
She then starts talking Dominion again — Trump cuts her off, throws her under bus.
Trump says “we don’t need Dominion” in Georgia, so Cleta just stuff it (basically).
They go through a few more things, the Trump people want more info, the GA people say they’re happy to give them what they can — under law.
Trump them blows up, basically says the Georgia runoff is going to be a disaster for Republicans!
Trump them blows up, basically says the Georgia runoff is going to be a disaster for Republicans!
Trump: “The people of Georgia know this was a scam. Because of what you’ve done to the president a lot of people aren’t going out to vote. They hate what you’ve done to the president and they’re going to vote negatively.”
Vote negatively?
Vote negatively?
The Trump people try to again get access to data, and claim they have an agreement after this call. Raffensperger says, no I didn’t way that.
Meadows tries to make some sort of positive wrap up. Trump then rants on Stacey Abrams again.
Trump: “What a schmuck I was.”
Meadows tries to make some sort of positive wrap up. Trump then rants on Stacey Abrams again.
Trump: “What a schmuck I was.”
Trump makes more threats against Raffensperger.
“Let the real truth come out. The real truth is that I won by 400,000 votes. But we don’t even need that many.”
The call ends with Trump thanking them.
Entire call a shit show.
“Let the real truth come out. The real truth is that I won by 400,000 votes. But we don’t even need that many.”
The call ends with Trump thanking them.
Entire call a shit show.