You do less things when you're old, life is less novel, novelty is the only thing of indubitable worth. To say an 18 year old should pay for an 81 year old to live 5 more years is to create a society that values the repetition of the same rather than the creation of the new.

And these are not victims of Hitler or child labour laws, but people who enjoyed the best welfare state in human history, then dismantled it for their children and then inflated the housing market to pay for it - which the youth are *already* paying for.

But even with these countless crimes, this would still be acceptable, if imprudent and unfair, if there was at least some indication that the trillions locked down in pensions would be used to pay for at least SOME of this.

There's not even a whisper of this happening. So what this means is the debt being used to pay for all this *will* be paid for by the people who categorically are not at risk. It is a simple wealth transfer from the young to the old.

The population structure in the West is profoundly un-natural due to abortion. Whatever you think about whether it should be legal or not. At least 25% of younger generations were killed in the womb. Again, irrespective of whether that's right or not.

Saying a foetus should be aborted in 1964 was seen as just as "evil" as saying we should let the olds die in 2020. Appealing to inherent feelings of conformism and disgust is not going to cut it as a justification. We are already "letting people die"

The only question is whether you want a society consisting of people who can have the full range of life's experiences, or one dominated by people for whom that is permanently beyond read.

So I ask, dp you really need to be some Stirnerite egotist (you should be lol) to find the moral reasoning behind this whole response needs some kind of explanation?

But no explanation has been made. Ask any of these people talking about 'declinism' re: vaccines or dunking on Toby Young to actually defend the basic moral reasoning behind their actions and they typically block you (understandable!)

I'm just saying guys, if you're having that reaction, its your soul's way of telling you you are trying to unsuccessfully defend yourself from truth. Embrace authenticity!

There's no use even writing this thread because its obvious this will become another Iraq War where everyone currently cheering the Bailout will be pretending they were "skeptics" by 2022. lol. Greetings from the future!

I do not elucidate these facts because I want to 'trigger' people or display a lack of empathy - but because I have empathy on a much larger, structual scale that sees all wishes equally and sees the decades of progress and felicity replaced by dysfunction.

such is the predicament of Scorpio in the 9th house