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So one last go.
I will try to do this thread without swearing but it will be hard…
…and I’m afraid im really going to have to spell it out to some of you.
This EU has set out a way back to Rejoin…but many of you remainers still don’t get it....
- A thread -
I will try to do this thread without swearing but it will be hard…
…and I’m afraid im really going to have to spell it out to some of you.
This EU has set out a way back to Rejoin…but many of you remainers still don’t get it....
- A thread -
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How many of you wanging on about Starmer actually read the treaty or commentary on it?
Of course it’s lousy. But in 1 way it’s good:
If you’d read it, you'd know EU have cleverly & quite deliberately set out a way back to rejoin..
...with big bl**dy lanterns to mark the way
How many of you wanging on about Starmer actually read the treaty or commentary on it?
Of course it’s lousy. But in 1 way it’s good:
If you’d read it, you'd know EU have cleverly & quite deliberately set out a way back to rejoin..
...with big bl**dy lanterns to mark the way
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The treaty sets up not just a framework for constant negotiations but 5 year reviews for “adjustment”. Anything is possible 2026:
Single Market, alignment up to 90% of EU membership – but one thing won’t be – Rejoin.
& that’s as 2024 election won’t be fought on 2nd referendum.
The treaty sets up not just a framework for constant negotiations but 5 year reviews for “adjustment”. Anything is possible 2026:
Single Market, alignment up to 90% of EU membership – but one thing won’t be – Rejoin.
& that’s as 2024 election won’t be fought on 2nd referendum.
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Johnson/a Brexiter will be PM in 2024 – they’ll win any election on 2nd referendum – easily.
Which is why Labour ruled it out.
Also not clear EU would be exactly "enthralled" by a non-aligned state suddenly deciding it’ll (re)join EU.
You – all of us - need to get smarter.
Johnson/a Brexiter will be PM in 2024 – they’ll win any election on 2nd referendum – easily.
Which is why Labour ruled it out.
Also not clear EU would be exactly "enthralled" by a non-aligned state suddenly deciding it’ll (re)join EU.
You – all of us - need to get smarter.
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What we all must understand....and fast is:
The road to rejoining the EU runs thru alignment...
....Which runs thru 2026 review...
....Which depends on 2024 election.
So how do we get there?
What we all must understand....and fast is:
The road to rejoining the EU runs thru alignment...
....Which runs thru 2026 review...
....Which depends on 2024 election.
So how do we get there?
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We get there by working with we have now – not deluding yourself that you can convince a majority of the population to vote for a 2nd referendum barely 3 years after we left EU.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
That way lies insanity.
We get there by working with we have now – not deluding yourself that you can convince a majority of the population to vote for a 2nd referendum barely 3 years after we left EU.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
That way lies insanity.
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So what do I see?
Many remainers whining that altho voting against Boris treaty was pointless “it was important for Starmer to make a pointless principled stand…for me”.
Seriously grow up.
This isn’t about you or even the so-called Redwall seats – its about adult politics.
So what do I see?
Many remainers whining that altho voting against Boris treaty was pointless “it was important for Starmer to make a pointless principled stand…for me”.
Seriously grow up.
This isn’t about you or even the so-called Redwall seats – its about adult politics.
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Also the idea that Tories will blame Labour for voting for Brexit makes no sense. In fact its really dumb.
Its Johnson’s deal.
It got a Tory majority.
Indeed, more than anything else, Brexit is now Toryism personified.
If things turn sh*t it won’t make it Labour’s Brexit.
Also the idea that Tories will blame Labour for voting for Brexit makes no sense. In fact its really dumb.
Its Johnson’s deal.
It got a Tory majority.
Indeed, more than anything else, Brexit is now Toryism personified.
If things turn sh*t it won’t make it Labour’s Brexit.
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What Tories can do, indeed has done - & what has hurt Labour - is depict it as constantly trying to thwart Brexit.
UK is exhausted & wants a deal done even tho, revealingly, a majority think it wont benefit UK.
Think.
Where do you want to go?
How can we achieve this?
What Tories can do, indeed has done - & what has hurt Labour - is depict it as constantly trying to thwart Brexit.
UK is exhausted & wants a deal done even tho, revealingly, a majority think it wont benefit UK.
Think.
Where do you want to go?
How can we achieve this?
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Here’s how:
Win the argument on competence
Change narrative to UK being forced into this mess by Boris
Don’t offer 2nd referendum but offer “A better deal for Britain”
But most all - defeat Johnson’s Tories.
I couldn’t care less if that’s thru Lab, LibDems, PC, GRN or SNP
Here’s how:
Win the argument on competence
Change narrative to UK being forced into this mess by Boris
Don’t offer 2nd referendum but offer “A better deal for Britain”
But most all - defeat Johnson’s Tories.
I couldn’t care less if that’s thru Lab, LibDems, PC, GRN or SNP
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But I tell you won’t you don’t do.
You don’t make a coalition with the 10% of hardcore “Never Starmers” to the point they prefer eternal Tory govt & Brexit rather than Starmer win an election.
Which is precisely what I see otherwise sane supposed “centerists” doing now.
But I tell you won’t you don’t do.
You don’t make a coalition with the 10% of hardcore “Never Starmers” to the point they prefer eternal Tory govt & Brexit rather than Starmer win an election.
Which is precisely what I see otherwise sane supposed “centerists” doing now.
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The prize is a decent country back in Europe.
We can be halfway, or even more, there by 2026.
But to get there we need to win in 2024.
Just over 3 years away – perhaps less.
So stop wanging on about pointless things or things you can’t change and help make it happen.
The prize is a decent country back in Europe.
We can be halfway, or even more, there by 2026.
But to get there we need to win in 2024.
Just over 3 years away – perhaps less.
So stop wanging on about pointless things or things you can’t change and help make it happen.
