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The last thing I'll say on the subject today, is that asking marginalised people who see independence as a chance to make something new and better to forgive conservatives for the greater good is asking too much. They're the ones who need to make concessions and compromises.
If a remorseful Tory wants to repudiate the horrors they have consistently unleashed on Wales, and on the marginalised, then that's cool. But I'm not just shrugging and standing shoulder to shoulder to them, because that's how you poison a new beginning.
If you're serious about independence- and believe me I take it seriously- then you know it means building a new nation. It means deciding how it is constituted, and it means deciding how it is administrated.
And no it doesn't mean deciding all that on the back of a fag packet after an emotional electorate had reactively voted for it- hello Brexit- it means doing that work before hand.
And no I don't want to give a Tory minority a hand in that, because that's how you end up with a constitution that doesn't reflect the majority views of Welsh people.
And besides, Tories don't want that. The Welsh Tories want to get shot of the Senedd, they don't want independence, and you'll never win anything by pandering to their minority fringe.
Look, nothing is apolitical. Least of all politics. I've got a wide range of people I'll compromise with if I have to, but we've all got our limit, and my limit is people who are absolutely fine with how and why we ended up in the global binfire we are currently in.
And that's all I've got to say about that.
Oh, no actually, I do have something else to say- concentrate on winning the Valleys. I know no-one likes the outsize importance Glamorgan has but that's where most of the people are, you win them over then you've won it.
That doesn't mean deep red socialism, that's too simplistic, but it does mean prioritising them over chumming up with fashy landowners.
