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I am having a discussion with @KeenosAFC and I've laid out that I think where we are today is a long time coming. It has been coming since we fell out of the Champions League and maybe even before: see in thread
In the waning years of Wenger, recruitment appeared to be less about buying parts to improve the squad and more about getting band aids and when Champions League was gone it became more pronounced.
Thus we started to have a team of individuals who might shine enough to carry us over the threshold but that is not a way to build a team. Couple that with Wenger's falling behind the modern game and players were just playing for sake of it.
Emery was something new and response was okay but still the signs even in the 22 game unbeaten run something wasn't right, when certain talent were omitted the cracks became more pronounced.
Emery was never the right fit more because of all the past stories of his man management skills and as we found out his lack of communication. So the poor squad assembled with some attempts at fixing it (then Sven canned) and Emery's issues broke the dam even a little more
add in Arteta. Highly recommended by almost everyone who's worked with him as a coach at City. He got an immediate bounce but issues were still there. We still had losses to Brighton, Villa and Olympiakos. but our defensive efforts improved and we beat City, Pool & CFC
Still the problems were there and there just isn't a team of players here at Arsenal and we've only just begun to add players who may be better when the whole sum of parts is put together but that is going to take time
The reality is, I think only two managers in the world could've held off where we are to an extent while we were in the process of getting rid of the bad in this squad - Pep and Klopp no other managers have the ability to rally a squad of disparate parts and pull it together
while everything is going through substantial change. They would've been able to use their own charisma to do as Wenger did and make them overachieve and only they have they have the gravitas to do that.
People use the word experience as hit on Arteta but Jose wasn't experienced when he got Porto nor was Nagelsmann when he got Hoffenheim but neither project was a nightmare to come into. Arteta may have thought he could do this - especially if he was promised full support
But he may be seeing that even as good as he may turn out to be that right now he may not have the gravitas - yet - to have his ideas triumph over an assemblage of 2/3 a steaming pile of crap
