Darren Waller is the dynasty TE1. Before you get mad and rush to the comments to say mean things, let me present my case.
I'm not disrespecting Travis Kelce and I understand how great he is.
So, let's get into this if we could
I'm not disrespecting Travis Kelce and I understand how great he is.
So, let's get into this if we could

First let's talk age.
Kelce is 32. Waller is 28. That's a 4 year difference. The big difference is Waller doesnt have "the milage" Kelce does.
I play dynasty for the now AND the longterm.
We have 2-3 years of Elite Kelce left
We have 5-6 years of Elite Waller left
Kelce is 32. Waller is 28. That's a 4 year difference. The big difference is Waller doesnt have "the milage" Kelce does.
I play dynasty for the now AND the longterm.
We have 2-3 years of Elite Kelce left
We have 5-6 years of Elite Waller left
Waller is about to post a 2nd superstar year. 100+ receptions, 1100+ yards, 8+ TDs
That's amazing. Yes, that is a typical Kelce year. BUT
That's amazing. Yes, that is a typical Kelce year. BUT
Kelce and Waller are possession TEs who play smart. Dont often take "the big hit" They find the zones. They sit. Pick up 10-15 yards and rack up PPR points
Kelce, a fantastic athlete in his own right, isn't a Darren Waller level athlete.
Kelce, a fantastic athlete in his own right, isn't a Darren Waller level athlete.
We're talking about a man who is 6'6 who runs a 4.46 40-yard dash. Anytime he gets the ball hes a threat to break it for 50+ yards. Kelce doesn't quite have that level of speed
Here's a 70+ yarder for your viewing pleasure!
Here's a 70+ yarder for your viewing pleasure!
When we break it down, Waller have every box Kelce does except the Mahomes advantage box. It is an advantage, but Waller has other advantages that Kelce doesn't have that equal us out here
Both of these are great. You have people slobbering all over you to get either one of them. It's rare to have a massive advantage at TE in fantasy. If you have either of these 2, you're likely a contender year in and out
( @MiKeMeUpP has a 2TE league where he has both
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( @MiKeMeUpP has a 2TE league where he has both

2020 for example. Year 2 of playing the position. Waller is on pace to drop
146 targets
106 receptions
1105 yards
10 TDs
With Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota
146 targets
106 receptions
1105 yards
10 TDs
With Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota
Travis Kelce is on pace to drop a casual
147 targets
110 receptions
1538 yards
11 TDs
147 targets
110 receptions
1538 yards
11 TDs
The difference between those 2 stat lines is 3.3 PPR PPG
THREE POINT THREE
1 player is doing that with the best QB in the league. The other is doing that with the definition of a middle of the road QB
Waller is in his 2nd full season playing the TE position
THREE POINT THREE
1 player is doing that with the best QB in the league. The other is doing that with the definition of a middle of the road QB
Waller is in his 2nd full season playing the TE position
Think about that for a second. This dude has played a total 34 games at the TE position and is about to drop his 2nd 95/100+ receptions 1000+ yard season with an average, at best QB.
The other man, who is amazing, has 7 years and the best QB in the league lead and is less than
The other man, who is amazing, has 7 years and the best QB in the league lead and is less than
2 catches and 10 yards per game better.
Darren Waller is still learning the position and dominating. Travis Kelce is great. I love Kelce, but I play the long game in dynasty.
Darren Waller is still learning the position and dominating. Travis Kelce is great. I love Kelce, but I play the long game in dynasty.
We've seen Kelce's ceiling. It's amazing. He's an absolute HOF'er who is STILL BALLING.
But Darren Waller just beginning to scratch the surface and is dominating the NFL.
Darren Waller is the dynasty TE1. See, even he knows

Thank you for your time
But Darren Waller just beginning to scratch the surface and is dominating the NFL.
Darren Waller is the dynasty TE1. See, even he knows


Thank you for your time
Alot of people complaining I didn't talk about Kittle. Your best ability is availability and Kittle plays so violently he's more likely to miss games. Hes 100% in the conversation. This was meant more to be Waller vs Kittle
I can do a 3-way thread if enough people ask me to
I can do a 3-way thread if enough people ask me to