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Time to do an HBD thread about Rwanda & Burundi.
Both are small African countries right next to each-other. Have very similar areas, populations (12.3 million Rwandans vs 11.2 million for Burundis), geographies, resources, & demographics.
Both are small African countries right next to each-other. Have very similar areas, populations (12.3 million Rwandans vs 11.2 million for Burundis), geographies, resources, & demographics.
Rwanda: 91% Hutu, 8% Tutsi, 1% Twa.
Burundi: 85% Hutu, 14% Tutsi, 1% Twa.
Bet you can guess why the percentage of Tutsis is lower in Rwanda.
Burundi: 85% Hutu, 14% Tutsi, 1% Twa.
Bet you can guess why the percentage of Tutsis is lower in Rwanda.
Let's go over some history. Both countries existed as monarchies BEFORE European colonization. In both, the Bantu Hutus made up the supermajority population, but the minority Nilotic Tutsis ran the countries. They had Tutsi kings & Tutsi aristocrats.
So what likely happened is that both groups moved into the area from their respective homeland in West Africa (Bantu) and East Africa (Tutsi), & they fought. Despite the Tutsis having a lot less people, they conquered.
Then the Germans showed up, took over, but governed through the already existing power structures. The Tutsi monarchies remained & continued the administration.
When the Belgians took both over during WWI, they also kept the same basic system in place.
When the Belgians took both over during WWI, they also kept the same basic system in place.
Then after WWII the big rush of decolonialism & African self-rule democracy arrived. But of course the Hutus & Tutsis couldn't make power-sharing agreements work. The Hutus wanted democracy because they were the majority & didn't want to be dominated by the Tutsis anymore.
So in both countries there were coups & counter-coups, and lots of massacres of each group as both ethnic groups jockeyed for power. Rebel groups would use one country as a base of operations to attack the other, depending on who was in power in each at the time.
In 1972 Burundi, roving bands of Hutu committed atrocities against Tutsi civilians. All authorities in the city of Bururi were killed & the insurgents seized the armories & then attempted to kill every Tutsi they could.
After the majority Hutus killed over 1,000 Tutsi, the Tutsi, who ran the gov't of Burundi at the time, struck back & killed maybe 210,000 Hutus.
There have been other large massacres in Burundi, committed by both sides, but that was the big one.
There have been other large massacres in Burundi, committed by both sides, but that was the big one.
And of course you have heard of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, where maybe 1,000,000 Tutsis were killed by the Hutus who ran the Rwandan gov't at the time.
I'm not going to go into every single battle & massacre & change-of-government of both counties. Basically, both groups have been fighting each-other for dominance since independence.
But the fact that the Tutsis have always been the minority group, & they manage to win quite a bit over the much more populous Hutu I think says something about the relative qualities of the two peoples.
White leftists (known to the Chinese as Baizuo) often say there is no ethnic difference between the groups & the division only came about because of Europeans. This is a lie.
@razibkhan: "... there are clear genetic distinctions between the two groups."
https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2020/01/18/the-belgians-did-not-invent-the-hutu-and-tutsi-ethnic-groups-who-have-different-origins/
@razibkhan: "... there are clear genetic distinctions between the two groups."
https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2020/01/18/the-belgians-did-not-invent-the-hutu-and-tutsi-ethnic-groups-who-have-different-origins/
The lying white leftists don't want you to believe your own eyes.
Left: Juvenal Habyarimana, Hutu President of Rwanda in 1994 who's assassination was the catalyst for the genocide of the Tutsis.
Right: Paul Kagame, Tutsi President of Rwanda today.
'I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!' cries the leftist!
Right: Paul Kagame, Tutsi President of Rwanda today.
'I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!' cries the leftist!
Left: Musabimana Juvenal, former Hutu rebel leader in the Congo. After Tutsi invaded & defeated the genocidal Hutu Rwandan army, many Hutu ran into Congo to attack Tutsi there.
Right: Laurent Nkunda (next to a white guy), former Tutsi rebel leader who fought the Hutu in Congo.
Right: Laurent Nkunda (next to a white guy), former Tutsi rebel leader who fought the Hutu in Congo.
Here is Barack Obama (50% European & 50% East African) next to Paul Kagame & his daughter (Tutsis), next to Michelle Obama (who is likely around 80% West African & 20% European).
'I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!' cries the leftist!
'I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!' cries the leftist!
Anyway, after lots of fighting in both countries, the Tutsi won out in Rwanda & the Hutu won out in Burundi.
Rwanda is a well-functioning Tutsi dictatorship, & Burundi is a corrupt mess of a Hutu democracy. And it shows.
GDP per capita -
Rwanda: 772.95 USD
Burundi: 271.75 USD
Rwanda is a well-functioning Tutsi dictatorship, & Burundi is a corrupt mess of a Hutu democracy. And it shows.
GDP per capita -
Rwanda: 772.95 USD
Burundi: 271.75 USD
The Tutsi-run gov't of Rwanda forces EVERYONE to clean & improve the country one day every month.
President Kagame Cleans Kigali Rwanda With Citizens
President Kagame Cleans Kigali Rwanda With Citizens
"To achieve its goal of increasing forest cover to 30% of total land area by 2020, Rwanda has embarked on massive reforestation and tree-planting drive, and new measures such as agro-forestry and training schemes in forest management are being implemented" https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/05/5-ways-rwanda-is-leading-on-green-growth/
Made in Rwanda? Up to 5,000 cars to be produced in Rwanda per year.
https://www.controlrisks.com/our-thinking/insights/automotive-made-in-rwanda
https://www.controlrisks.com/our-thinking/insights/automotive-made-in-rwanda
The killer lake: how an exploding lake became a gold mine for Rwanda.
Potentially lethal methane at the bottom of Lake Kivu is being harnessed to solve Rwanda’s energy poverty, but the project needed complex funding agreements to get off the ground. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/feb/06/killer-lake-kivu-gold-mine-rwanda
Potentially lethal methane at the bottom of Lake Kivu is being harnessed to solve Rwanda’s energy poverty, but the project needed complex funding agreements to get off the ground. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/feb/06/killer-lake-kivu-gold-mine-rwanda
While this was all going on in Rwanda, how was democratic Burundi doing?
Burundian unrest (2015–2018)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burundian_unrest_(2015–2018)
Burundian unrest (2015–2018)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burundian_unrest_(2015–2018)
President tries to run for an unconstitutional third term. People protest. The country's highest court approved his right to run for a third term despite the fact that at least one of the court's judges fled the country after receiving death threats from members of the gov't.
As a result of the protests the government shut down the country's internet & telephone network, closed all of the country's universities & government officials publicly referred to the protesters as "terrorists".
Tens of thousands of people fled the country, hundreds of people were arrested & several protesters & police officers were killed while dozens more were injured.
On 13 May 2015, a coup was announced, led by Major General Godefroid Niyombare, while President Nkurunziza was in Tanzania attending an emergency conference about the situation in the country. The next day the coup collapsed & government forces reasserted control.
Now anti-government rebels are hiding out in Congo & engaging in cross-border raids into Burundi, & 428,000 refugees have fled Burundi & are living in neighboring countries.
Again, these are two countries right next to each-other with very similar histories, demographics, land-area, resources, and populations. Yet the one with the minority Nilotic ppl running things has a GDP per capita almost three times higher than the Bantu-led democracy.
Heck, if anything, Rwanda SHOULD be worse off as it has a big poisonous lake that explodes sometimes sending out toxic gas that kills all the nearby life. Yet they turned toxic gas lemons into energy-production lemonade.
Both countries are still quite poor relative to some other African nations, due to being land-locked & having very few resources. But working with what little they have, one is clearly doing much better than the other.
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Off topic, but there was a *really* wild naval battle on one of the African Great Lakes, Lake Tanganyika, close to the areas I have been talking about, during World War I.
British dragged 2 motor boats through jungle & over mountains for hundreds of miles
British dragged 2 motor boats through jungle & over mountains for hundreds of miles
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. @hbdchick may have some insight into this too. https://twitter.com/hbdchick/status/910822988118937601
"The Tutsi then formed a permanent and separate aristocracy and kept the Hutu as serfs and underlings." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/neighbours-who-kill-without-hatred-hutus-and-tutsis-deny-the-depth-of-their-hostility-writes-richard-dowden-1369267.html
Re-imagining Rwanda:
Conflict, Survival, and Disinformation in the Late Twentieth Century (PDF)
Johan Pottier (2002)
Cambridge University Press
http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/cam034/2002727289.pdf#page=9
Conflict, Survival, and Disinformation in the Late Twentieth Century (PDF)
Johan Pottier (2002)
Cambridge University Press
http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/cam034/2002727289.pdf#page=9
"Following both countries’ implementation of health sector policies in 2005, we found a statistically significant increase in life expectancy in Rwanda after adjusting for GDP per capita (14.7 years, [...]), relative to Burundi (4.6 years, [...])." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6039746/
