Ok I will now attempt to build my thread on the harms of particular violence in WW II and Star Wars movies desensitizing our culture and youth

This was touched on briefly by @Bdubs1776 in his Inglorious Basterds thread, and further summed up in a reply to said thread here: https://twitter.com/crusaderwatch/status/1325860504674443283
The purpose of this thread is neither to

A) dismiss all violence as unnecessary

B) imply that all movie violence is dehumanizing (sometimes it’s the opposite)

C) defend national socialism (and if you get that message, you have simply made my point for me)
It has long been my hypothesis that there are only three classes of villains with which you can do whatever you want to in a movie and not receive any backlash

Monsters

Mechanicals

Nazis

No one will bat an eye, because to sympathize with them is “unnatural,” for 1/2 it is
It has long been my hypothesis that there are only three classes of villains with which you can do whatever you want to in a movie and not receive any backlashMonstersMechanicalsNazisNo one will bat an eye, because to sympathize with them is “unnatural,” for 1/2 it is
It has long been my hypothesis that there are only three classes of villains with which you can do whatever you want to in a movie and not receive any backlashMonstersMechanicalsNazisNo one will bat an eye, because to sympathize with them is “unnatural,” for 1/2 it is
It has long been my hypothesis that there are only three classes of villains with which you can do whatever you want to in a movie and not receive any backlashMonstersMechanicalsNazisNo one will bat an eye, because to sympathize with them is “unnatural,” for 1/2 it is
It has long been my hypothesis that there are only three classes of villains with which you can do whatever you want to in a movie and not receive any backlashMonstersMechanicalsNazisNo one will bat an eye, because to sympathize with them is “unnatural,” for 1/2 it is
Obvious. But why the third? Well, it is because the movie industry doesn’t want you to see a segment of the population as human. They are literally on the same standing as that which is unhuman, and evil, namely- monsters and robots.
Once the ground work is set and the humanity from all those in a 1930-1945 German uniform is extinguished, then one can start to expand their ideology (or rather the ideology they de facto served) onto those without their uniform, and erase their humanity as well
Once the ground work is set and the humanity from all those in a 1930-1945 German uniform is extinguished, then one can start to expand their ideology (or rather the ideology they de facto served) onto those without their uniform, and erase their humanity as well
Once the ground work is set and the humanity from all those in a 1930-1945 German uniform is extinguished, then one can start to expand their ideology (or rather the ideology they de facto served) onto those without their uniform, and erase their humanity as well
I will now, in reference to the aforementioned Thesis, provide examples of the dehumanizing nature of violence in WW II movies, as well as Star Wars (which is WW II in space) and contrast it to other movie violence.
I will now, in reference to the aforementioned Thesis, provide examples of the dehumanizing nature of violence in WW II movies, as well as Star Wars (which is WW II in space) and contrast it to other movie violence.
I will now, in reference to the aforementioned Thesis, provide examples of the dehumanizing nature of violence in WW II movies, as well as Star Wars (which is WW II in space) and contrast it to other movie violence.
I will now, in reference to the aforementioned Thesis, provide examples of the dehumanizing nature of violence in WW II movies, as well as Star Wars (which is WW II in space) and contrast it to other movie violence.
I will now, in reference to the aforementioned Thesis, provide examples of the dehumanizing nature of violence in WW II movies, as well as Star Wars (which is WW II in space) and contrast it to other movie violence.
You may notice overlapping actors, directors, producers, etc. IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE

I could have threads off of this thread telling about how it’s all linked. Examples of gruesome violence portrayed as “funny” or “good when given a reason not to” which leads to desensitization
You may notice overlapping actors, directors, producers, etc. IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCEI could have threads off of this thread telling about how it’s all linked. Examples of gruesome violence portrayed as “funny” or “good when given a reason not to” which leads to desensitization
You may notice overlapping actors, directors, producers, etc. IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCEI could have threads off of this thread telling about how it’s all linked. Examples of gruesome violence portrayed as “funny” or “good when given a reason not to” which leads to desensitization
You may notice overlapping actors, directors, producers, etc. IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCEI could have threads off of this thread telling about how it’s all linked. Examples of gruesome violence portrayed as “funny” or “good when given a reason not to” which leads to desensitization
Flame based weapons are nasty but effective. Death by fire is shown to be cruel enough to prompt a mercy kill by the hero or someone else (Last of the Mohicans, Game of Thrones, Etc)

However in movies like Saving Private Ryan and Fury, death by fire is too good for the “Kraut”!
Flame based weapons are nasty but effective. Death by fire is shown to be cruel enough to prompt a mercy kill by the hero or someone else (Last of the Mohicans, Game of Thrones, Etc)However in movies like Saving Private Ryan and Fury, death by fire is too good for the “Kraut”!
Flame based weapons are nasty but effective. Death by fire is shown to be cruel enough to prompt a mercy kill by the hero or someone else (Last of the Mohicans, Game of Thrones, Etc)However in movies like Saving Private Ryan and Fury, death by fire is too good for the “Kraut”!
“Let them burn” or “don’t waste your ammo” or purposely selecting incendiary rounds is common. Why ought we feel sympathy for them?

BUT in Fury, we are made to feel sympathetic for a GI engulfed in flames who kills himself- the Germans are given the same fate w/o mercy
“Let them burn” or “don’t waste your ammo” or purposely selecting incendiary rounds is common. Why ought we feel sympathy for them?BUT in Fury, we are made to feel sympathetic for a GI engulfed in flames who kills himself- the Germans are given the same fate w/o mercy
“Let them burn” or “don’t waste your ammo” or purposely selecting incendiary rounds is common. Why ought we feel sympathy for them?BUT in Fury, we are made to feel sympathetic for a GI engulfed in flames who kills himself- the Germans are given the same fate w/o mercy
Stormtroopers in the mandalorian meet similar grisly, flame-based fates. Those are people under there, remember? Or do you easily fall for the Hollywood trick: no visible face = not a human. Hundreds of masked/helmeted henchmen can die, but the faced big bad can be shown mercy
Stormtroopers in the mandalorian meet similar grisly, flame-based fates. Those are people under there, remember? Or do you easily fall for the Hollywood trick: no visible face = not a human. Hundreds of masked/helmeted henchmen can die, but the faced big bad can be shown mercy
Stormtroopers in the mandalorian meet similar grisly, flame-based fates. Those are people under there, remember? Or do you easily fall for the Hollywood trick: no visible face = not a human. Hundreds of masked/helmeted henchmen can die, but the faced big bad can be shown mercy
Mercy- should German soldiers be shown any? No, of course not. I’m Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Inglorious Basterds and Fury, surrendering or surrendered Germans are gunned down

Sometimes for a “cool” factor, sometimes for laughs, or because “they deserve it”
Mercy- should German soldiers be shown any? No, of course not. I’m Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Inglorious Basterds and Fury, surrendering or surrendered Germans are gunned downSometimes for a “cool” factor, sometimes for laughs, or because “they deserve it”
Mercy- should German soldiers be shown any? No, of course not. I’m Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Inglorious Basterds and Fury, surrendering or surrendered Germans are gunned downSometimes for a “cool” factor, sometimes for laughs, or because “they deserve it”
Mercy- should German soldiers be shown any? No, of course not. I’m Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Inglorious Basterds and Fury, surrendering or surrendered Germans are gunned downSometimes for a “cool” factor, sometimes for laughs, or because “they deserve it”
Mercy- should German soldiers be shown any? No, of course not. I’m Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Inglorious Basterds and Fury, surrendering or surrendered Germans are gunned downSometimes for a “cool” factor, sometimes for laughs, or because “they deserve it”
Prisoner executions in movies are shown to illustrate how EVIL the bad guy is. The good guy is usually stoic or defiant and is killed. Bad. In the above instances save one, the prisoner is BEGGING for mercy, citing their family, and is shot anyway (for on or off screen laughs)
Americans execute German prisoners and shoot German kids because “if given the chance they’d do the same to you” then at the end of Fury supposedly “merciless evil SS soldier” who just watched his buddies die goes “nah fuck it” and spares tank driver. 🤔🧐
In Saving Private Ryan, acts of mercy are shown as weakness (if done by the Americans) because the German they spared (after protestation) shoots Tom Hanks. He is then later executed. A German killing an American trying to surrender in hand to hand combat is shown to be cruel
In Saving Private Ryan, acts of mercy are shown as weakness (if done by the Americans) because the German they spared (after protestation) shoots Tom Hanks. He is then later executed. A German killing an American trying to surrender in hand to hand combat is shown to be cruel
In Saving Private Ryan, acts of mercy are shown as weakness (if done by the Americans) because the German they spared (after protestation) shoots Tom Hanks. He is then later executed. A German killing an American trying to surrender in hand to hand combat is shown to be cruel
In both Indiana Jones and Band of Brothers there are scenes where a wounded German soldier is run over by a tank. Why? I don’t know. Because it’s funny I guess. I personally find it grotesque to relish in. Also, enjoy Capt. America throwing a non-person into a propeller!
Throwing Captain Phasma into a trash compactor? A grotesque death narrowly avoided by earlier heroes? HEROIC and FUNNY

Ewoks or assassin droids brutally beating and/or stabbing people to death? Played for laughs!

Stormtroopers showing mercy? Better have them killed.
Throwing Captain Phasma into a trash compactor? A grotesque death narrowly avoided by earlier heroes? HEROIC and FUNNYEwoks or assassin droids brutally beating and/or stabbing people to death? Played for laughs!Stormtroopers showing mercy? Better have them killed.
Throwing Captain Phasma into a trash compactor? A grotesque death narrowly avoided by earlier heroes? HEROIC and FUNNYEwoks or assassin droids brutally beating and/or stabbing people to death? Played for laughs!Stormtroopers showing mercy? Better have them killed.
Movies/shows like Iron Cross, Stalingrad, Enemy at the Gates, Generation War, and practically any star wars game with a “bad guy” perspective- the characters must either die or defect. Nuance is never allowed here, as it is in any other segment of society no matter how depraved
Movies/shows like Iron Cross, Stalingrad, Enemy at the Gates, Generation War, and practically any star wars game with a “bad guy” perspective- the characters must either die or defect. Nuance is never allowed here, as it is in any other segment of society no matter how depraved
Movies/shows like Iron Cross, Stalingrad, Enemy at the Gates, Generation War, and practically any star wars game with a “bad guy” perspective- the characters must either die or defect. Nuance is never allowed here, as it is in any other segment of society no matter how depraved
Once this groundwork is laid then it can be built upon. Hunters, Watchmen, The Boys, Munich and others all have scenes of extrajudicial punishment of “Natzees” or like minded individuals “hiding in plain sight”. It echoes the Basterds theme of guilt by association.
And unless you’re hiding under a rock, the accusation associating anyone to the right of John McCain as being a part of this out group isn’t a joke but a declaration that “you are like them, the non-people who our media tells us have no rights or sympathy”
Final thought, but willing to take questions:
BONUS ROUND:

Although Fury has no subtitles for German, during the final battle the commander rallies his troops reminding them to fight for the defense of their homeland

(Remember that these are the bad guys, and their motives are “evil”)

Just an interesting point. Idk.
It seems odd that the Germans spare the only survivor of the tank crew they and with that speech show humanity in a movie that implies they don’t deserve human compassion

Perhaps to show they have humanity but that it’s meaningless?

It lends credit to @MScarince ‘s counterpoint
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