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I am increasingly of the opinion all Protestant converts should be conditionally baptized.
A 2005 survey of United Church of Christ ministers found that 25% of UCC ministers use words of baptism that are invalidating. Imagine how much worse it is 15 years later.
The UCC are usually listed as a baptism that Catholics accept.
The UCC are usually listed as a baptism that Catholics accept.
What's worse, the ELCA, Presbyterian Church, and Reformed Church in America all have intercommunion and sharing of ministers with the UCC, making all baptisms they have or certify dubious as well (not even considering problems with their own ministers messing with the rite)
Canon 845§2 says that if "after completing a diligent inquiry a prudent doubt still exists, [baptism is] to be conferred conditionally."
It would seem to me that we should start to consider whether "prudent doubt" becomes the default position.
It would seem to me that we should start to consider whether "prudent doubt" becomes the default position.
“9% ... add more inclusive words such as 'One God, Mother of us all,' and 14% use 'Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer,' or a variation of it."
United Church of Christ, Worshiping into God’s Future: Summary and Strategies 2005 (Cleveland: Local Church Ministries, 2005), 10.
United Church of Christ, Worshiping into God’s Future: Summary and Strategies 2005 (Cleveland: Local Church Ministries, 2005), 10.
A year ago, I wrote a paper for my Ecumenism class on this topic. It's not a good situation.
(btw my Ecumenism class was taught by one of the most traddie professors you'd ever meet, he's no friend of how most modern ecumenism turns out)
(btw my Ecumenism class was taught by one of the most traddie professors you'd ever meet, he's no friend of how most modern ecumenism turns out)
If you're interested in reading the paper, DM me for a link.
This isn't being legalistic; this is realizing that Christ said to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." We should not presume to baptize in a way that Christ didn't tell us to (or have the pride to think we can do it better than Our Lord)
