A thread in the "China stock" risks. I wanted to document for myself (after a discussion with a friend) what the risks are investing in stocks listed in the US for companies based in China. Hopefully this will help you manage risk better. $BABA, $JD, $FUTU, $DADA etc.
2. There are between 210 - 250 companies with HQ in China that listed in the US markets. Some of them are Cayman entities but most have complex structures with multiple holding companies. See $YALA for example below.
3. 5 major risks (please let me know others). 1) Poor financial controls/fraud (e.g. $LK Luckin Coffee), 2) US Govt may delist companies from China if they dont allow US certified accountants 3) China-US trade relations 4) China CCP control (e.g. Ant Financial), 5) Growth risk
4. 1. Poor financial controls / fraud. In the last year, $LK, $GSX, $NIO, $YY have all been accused of fudging numbers, fraudulent accounting. While you cannot protect against this risk much, check the founders, investors and backers to understand exposure
6. US-China Trade relations. While the current president initiated the tariffs, it seems unlikely that the next president will change the rules dramatically. This might make certain companies targeting US markets have lower rev growth.
8. Growth risk. This exists with all cos, but if China sees a slowdown because of Covid (they are seeing the opposite) the companies that target local China customers (E.g. $FUTU) might see dramatic slowdown
9. There are over 200 cos from China listed in the US. Megacap = 1, Large Cap = 30, Mid Cap = 27, Small Cap = 45 and rest are micro / nano. If you look at valuations, except 2-3 of them the rest are severely discounted relative to their US peers on comparable growth
10. The risks are very real. If you believe the growth in these companies will be reflected in their stock prices in the US, then the risks are worth it. Which is why the discount is factored in most China stocks. The biggest risk (for me) is slow growth not delisting or fraud
11. Here are some resources to read and get yourself educated: https://www.conleyandsilvers.com/winter-virtual-soiree-schedule/tooze-4-zalrt
Some visuals from the Economist article.
13. Mistakes and Errors. $NIO Has not been accused by Hindenburg research it was $KNDI Kandi
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