Pop on people taking COVID seriously: "I'm disappointed in the fiber of our populous ... We're still more of an instant-gratification country. We think about ourselves more than the group, than the community. It's just beyond my comprehension...
"...how somebody can talk about not wearing a mask shows that you're for freedom, and you're for America, and you're for personal choice when it has nothing to do with that. Intellectually, philosophically, emotionally -- we're all in this together. We're all in the mud...
"...we're trying to save each other's ass. But a large group of people can't project and go beyond themselves in that sense, and that's very disappointing. And I think it's sad for the country."
On sources of optimism: "I think it's always best to be optimistic, because without hope, that's a pretty depressing existence."
More Pop: "I think president-elect Biden taking control will be important. He'll show empathy, he'll show leadership, he'll have a plan ... as opposed to our current president who really can't manage anything...
"...unless it's for himself. We've seen that in his past with his steaks, or his college ,or his casinos -- it doesn't matter what. What he is is really clever -- maybe the best Barnum & Bailey guy ever to walk the face of the earth...
"He can do what he needs to do for himself. He can intimidate, he can coerce, he can trick people -- he's the best at it. But as far as knowing anything? He doesn't really know anything. He knows he doesn't know anything. He can't plan anything, he can't manage anything...
"So that's why there's always chaos. From that he figures out how to spin things and we have what we've had for the last four years. We've got more people dying now, as everybody talks about, 'compared to 9/11 and the wars,' and this kind of thing...
"But what does he do? He golfs and spreads lies. He has nothing whatsoever to do with what's going on here. It's sad, but soon it will be over. We just hope he doesn't burn the whole thing down on his way out."
Whew!