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WHY YUWIN IS A TERRIBLE SHIP AND WHY THE SHIPPERS ARE AT FAULT IN THIS, a thread that places 0 blame on Yuta and/or WinWin, who are both wonderful idols who would be disappointed in this shit
(lots of tw's for this thread, I'll tag each tweet with appropriate tw's)
(lots of tw's for this thread, I'll tag each tweet with appropriate tw's)
tw// abuse manipulation and romanticizing abuse
-First and foremost there's the "uwu Yuta's JEALOUS" thing when WW was literally just over with other members, I've seen it a few times and if you think that's romantic, you're wrong, it's a massive red flag- if someone is genuinely
-First and foremost there's the "uwu Yuta's JEALOUS" thing when WW was literally just over with other members, I've seen it a few times and if you think that's romantic, you're wrong, it's a massive red flag- if someone is genuinely
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jealous that you have other people in your life, they are going to try to isolate you which makes getting out of the relationship harder, makes you more vulnerable to being abused by that person, that brings me to....
jealous that you have other people in your life, they are going to try to isolate you which makes getting out of the relationship harder, makes you more vulnerable to being abused by that person, that brings me to....
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-Yandere!Yuta (their usual portrayal of him) is shit, he's NOT that sort of person and because romanticizing the yandere archetype romanticizes abuse and manipulation, yanderes literally manipulate and abuse the object of their
-Yandere!Yuta (their usual portrayal of him) is shit, he's NOT that sort of person and because romanticizing the yandere archetype romanticizes abuse and manipulation, yanderes literally manipulate and abuse the object of their
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affection and anyone who stands in the way of them getting to the object of their affection, they will use violence to get what they want, they will hurt people, they will even kill people to get what they want
affection and anyone who stands in the way of them getting to the object of their affection, they will use violence to get what they want, they will hurt people, they will even kill people to get what they want
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-YuWin is often portrayed in a VERY stereotypical way, almost exclusively sub-bottom!WW, who is often portrayed as being very feminine, which he really isn't, not in the ways people seem to like
-YuWin is often portrayed in a VERY stereotypical way, almost exclusively sub-bottom!WW, who is often portrayed as being very feminine, which he really isn't, not in the ways people seem to like
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portraying him, he's not so much shy as soft-spoken, unsure of his Korean, and not fond of skinship, and I say that knowing people will point to "oh he wanted to dress up as a woman" so fucking what?
portraying him, he's not so much shy as soft-spoken, unsure of his Korean, and not fond of skinship, and I say that knowing people will point to "oh he wanted to dress up as a woman" so fucking what?
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We've seen men in dresses before and is anyone going to call Lucas "feminine" for wearing a dress? I'll wait. No, the problem is that most of these fics are written by people who fetishize Yuta and
We've seen men in dresses before and is anyone going to call Lucas "feminine" for wearing a dress? I'll wait. No, the problem is that most of these fics are written by people who fetishize Yuta and
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mlm relationships, they want to see the member they find more attractive topping so they can, in a sense, self-insert and project onto a character they find nonthreatening- a "meek" male character
mlm relationships, they want to see the member they find more attractive topping so they can, in a sense, self-insert and project onto a character they find nonthreatening- a "meek" male character
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And this becomes incredibly problematic, this problem appears in other ships (see anything with dom-top!Y00ngi), but it's so thoroughly pronounced with YuWin that the sexual aspect of YuWin is
And this becomes incredibly problematic, this problem appears in other ships (see anything with dom-top!Y00ngi), but it's so thoroughly pronounced with YuWin that the sexual aspect of YuWin is
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dominated by this mentality, this stereotype of big strong dom-top Yuta chasing, catching, and "protecting" soft weak sub-bottom WW, and I don't know any WW stans who like the ship in part bc of...
dominated by this mentality, this stereotype of big strong dom-top Yuta chasing, catching, and "protecting" soft weak sub-bottom WW, and I don't know any WW stans who like the ship in part bc of...
-BLATANT mischaracterization, of both members, I'm not as familiar with Yuta stans as I haven't been part of that community so I won't speak for the majority of them, but YuWin shippers reduce both of them to just their ship, just what the shippers want to see of them, and have
BEGGED SM to put WW back with 127 even long after it was established that he'd be treated far better and was happier with WayV (and people don't seem to get that they're still friends), these shippers only care about their ship, their idea of Yuta and WW, not the actual members
-Oh and the shippers can be insanely pushy, I've been berated for not shipping them after saying I'm a WW stan, as though every WW stan is obligated to like the ship
In conclusion, please don't be like these toxic shippers, please learn from their mistakes, and if you're a YuWin shipper who finds these things objectionable too, please try to fix your community, don't be mad at me for pointing out what I've seen, I think the ship could be
great but it isn't because of toxic behaviors and ideas that are baked into the community surrounding the ship and creating the lion's share of the content for it and one person alone can't change that
