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1/n #SadarPranam to Ishvara within you.
Now since you have dragged it long. It is time to destroy Birmingham Quran MS completely, scientifically.
Respond should you have enough substance.
I wonder why don't you raise doubts, but only except anything supporting Islam. https://twitter.com/husamshahid88/status/1333835456950145026
Now since you have dragged it long. It is time to destroy Birmingham Quran MS completely, scientifically.
Respond should you have enough substance.
I wonder why don't you raise doubts, but only except anything supporting Islam. https://twitter.com/husamshahid88/status/1333835456950145026
2/n Bhai @husamshahid88 I told you earlier too and telling it again. TheC-14 dating isn't the date of writing on the manuscript but only of the parchment it waswritten on. Hence the latest dating (645 AD) would only be the date when sheep or goat died.
3/n If you considerCarbon dating of Sanaa palimpsest, the date goesback before Muhammad's revelation (pre600 AD).
There is an interesting point raised by Avi Lewis.
There is an interesting point raised by Avi Lewis.
4/n He says, "since the RadioCarbon test shows that
these folios range between 568-645 AD, the writing on parchment may have been way before the 610-632, the period of revelation of Qur’an, or maybe even earlier than Muhammad crossing teenage.
Alas, then Islam?
these folios range between 568-645 AD, the writing on parchment may have been way before the 610-632, the period of revelation of Qur’an, or maybe even earlier than Muhammad crossing teenage.
Alas, then Islam?
5/n But that actually would be in agreementwith the observations like the one made by late Taha Husain in1926, who said thatthe Qur'an contains pre-Islamic metricpoetry.
Boom! Qur'an without Islam?
Boom! Qur'an without Islam?
6/n The Birmingham MS has 4 instances of diacritical
mark textual variants.
1)With grammatical implications
2) Gibberish reading (see below & match with Qur’an of the day),proving that even this text has early textualvariants, along withverse numbering differences.
mark textual variants.
1)With grammatical implications
2) Gibberish reading (see below & match with Qur’an of the day),proving that even this text has early textualvariants, along withverse numbering differences.
7/n It is difficult to even imagine that the Birmingham folios would be of so early time looking at the well established page layout,along with well developed Qur’anic Hijaziscript style, verse numbering,& Surahdivisions.
8/n Funny part is that these are way better than
latermanuscripts. And also earlier than the established consensus by mostIslamic scholars for a developed Arabic scribal & written literary culture existence to begin.
@husamshahid88 any idea?
latermanuscripts. And also earlier than the established consensus by mostIslamic scholars for a developed Arabic scribal & written literary culture existence to begin.
@husamshahid88 any idea?
9/n The variations in text confirms very clearly what we know from the later Islamic Traditions, thatearly editing happened to createa basic textualform. I came across an interesting nook by Dr Brubaker’swhich is based on his thesis. https://www.amazon.in/Corrections-Early-Qur%CA%BE%C4%81n-Manuscripts-Manuscript/dp/1949123030
10/n He mentions in the book that 800+ of these corrections in the 10 larger Qur’ans he examined.They all dated from 8th-9th centuries. It proves that these variations and corrections did continue for another good two centuries.
11/n At the same time these textual variations suggest alarger number of textual patternsfor the Qur’anthan the Islamic traditions had recorded.
So what does this tells us @husamshahid88 ?
So what does this tells us @husamshahid88 ?
12/n Thistellsus that the populace post the period of Muhammad (i.e. post 632 AD) were way more engrossedin establishingthe precise wording as well as spelling of the text of theQur’an than some traditions.
13/n Let's examine examples of differences from the two pages(front & rear) which includes portionsof Surahs 18-20, though only the parts of Surahs 19&20 are continuous:
14/n
A)At least 27 alifs are missingwhen compared to the http://currenttext.It provesthe extent to which Arabicspelling changed intheinitial 3 centuries of Islam.
A)At least 27 alifs are missingwhen compared to the http://currenttext.It provesthe extent to which Arabicspelling changed intheinitial 3 centuries of Islam.
15/n B)Four instances of consonant based diacritical marks that are different from what is now the standard. Three of them have zero correlation to known variant ways of reciting the text.
16/n While one of themis similar to a later reciter named Ibn ʻAmr (Surah Al-Kahf 18:26, ‘tushuriku’, the verb ’You make to share’, is written instead of ‘yushuriku, ‘He makes to share’,in the sentence, ‘Hemakes none to share in Hisdecisionandrule’).
17/n C)In all three of surahs one can find that the verses are numbered differently than from current Qur’ans.
18/n
D)The way theletter qafis pointed is similarto anothersystem ofpointingused in early timesandalso found today in the Warsh Qur'ans, which areonly inNorth
Africa (i.e. qafhasonedot,fa’hasnodot).
D)The way theletter qafis pointed is similarto anothersystem ofpointingused in early timesandalso found today in the Warsh Qur'ans, which areonly inNorth
Africa (i.e. qafhasonedot,fa’hasnodot).
19/n Even if this MS is to be dated early how is it possible to find variances if the Qur’an is perfect, complete &
unchanged.
unchanged.
