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Plot hole issues w/ the ending: 1) Why didn't Cas go back to Dean after Jack rescued him? Did Jack ask Cas not too, to keep Heaven from interfering like he himself does as an absent god?
2) Where the hell is Eileen? Did she live & Sam married her or was that another lady? 1/?
3) How much time passed before Dean died? Alot of effort went into them finally getting free will for Dean just to die right after. Also Dean dying kinda dampens Cas' sacrifice in the name of love
4) Why would they keep hunting if they knew they no longer had their good luck? 2/?
4) Why would they keep hunting if they knew they no longer had their good luck? 2/?
5) Why did Bobby greet Dean and not Cas? Was this because of Covid? But then why have Jim Beaver quarantine and not Misha?
6) Why did Dean have to die period? Couldn't we have had both Dean and Sam have a happy ending and then have a time jump to them meeting up in heaven? 3/?
6) Why did Dean have to die period? Couldn't we have had both Dean and Sam have a happy ending and then have a time jump to them meeting up in heaven? 3/?
7) What happened with the Empty? If Jack rescued Cas did he rescue the other Angels too and restore Heaven's Angel population?
8) How long did Sam continue hunting by himself? Logically he should have died much sooner if he was doing it solo. 4/?
8) How long did Sam continue hunting by himself? Logically he should have died much sooner if he was doing it solo. 4/?
9) Why was there that weird throwback to that Vampire Chick from like the first season? Why have a flashback?
10) Why didn't Sam start screaming for Jack to help when Dean was dying? 5/?
10) Why didn't Sam start screaming for Jack to help when Dean was dying? 5/?
11) Does Sam's son also hunt or did Sam protect him from that life?
12) Why didn't Sam try to bring Dean back? They've always gone in that circle why not this time? (Other than the obvious that it was the finale) 6/?
12) Why didn't Sam try to bring Dean back? They've always gone in that circle why not this time? (Other than the obvious that it was the finale) 6/?
13) Why have the 15x04 Becky episode of her criticizing the ending and go through with an unsatisfying ending? What was the point of emphasizing her-the fan-wanting a happy ending for the boys just to give us a bittersweet one? 7/?
14) No one else besides Sam and the dog attended Dean's Hunter Funeral??? Where were Claire, Jody, Eileen (again), Donna, AU!Bobby, AU!Charlie, ect?
15) Did any of those characters survive Chuck's Thanosing? Did Jack bring them back? 8/?
15) Did any of those characters survive Chuck's Thanosing? Did Jack bring them back? 8/?
16) Why have Dean be so chipper at the beginning? When Cas died before he was suicidal. But now he was like "we have to live to honor their sacrifices"? But there was evidence that Dean had been drinking heavily. Did he die because he wasn't careful and didn't care anymore? 9/?
17) Did Dean really just drive the whole time in Heaven? Bobby said time passed differently, so did he go on a ride until Sam showed up? I hope that he at least hung out with Cas at the Roadhouse! They left the door open for #destiel to continue in Heaven 10/?
18) Did Jack put everyone back to where they were suppose to be? Is that why Eileen was missing? He put everyone that was dead back to Heaven and Hell? But then why have Sam and Dean live when they've died so much. Did Jack restore the AU worlds and return everyone there? 11/?
19) Why did Jack allow the monsters to continue living in this world? He knew how much pain they caused. If he had rid the world of monster then Dean and Sam would not have had to keep hunting and saving people. 12/?
20) Jensen has mentioned a rival. Why have Dean permanently die if there are plans for a rival? They could always have Dean return with Cas' help to assist Sam in whatever plot it would be but then would Cas and Dean return to Heaven after for consistently? 13/?
21) Dean read his Death Book! Did he know this was gonna happen? Is that why he was so chipper, he didn't want Sam to remember him being depressed in his final days? Or did Dean's book change after they defeated Chuck? 14/?
22) After Dean found out Cas was alive why didn't he immediately pray to Cas? Just to say Hi or you know I LOVE YOU TOO! And then also to ask if he could be brought back to life and return to Sam? Was Dean truly done? 15/?
23) Was Dean really ok with just hopping in Baby to go for a heavenly drive knowing Sam was alone and heartbroken? 16/?
24) Did Sam abandon the Bunker? Or did he pass it to his son? 17/?
25) How did John get to Heaven? Last I remember he was in hell. Did Jack save him too? But why? Did he do it for Mary out of guilt? 18/?
26) Did Dean steal the dog or was it a stray?
27) Why give Dean a dog? Sam was always the dog guy but clearly it was Deanâs given the bowls at the base of his bed.
28) Why keep a dog in an underground bunker? 19/?
27) Why give Dean a dog? Sam was always the dog guy but clearly it was Deanâs given the bowls at the base of his bed.
28) Why keep a dog in an underground bunker? 19/?
29) Was the dog and the job application meant to show that Dean was trying to retire? Why include those details and then kill him? The message his death sends is so bleak. 20/?
30) Why did Sam have so many pictures of his passed family but no pictures of his own family that he spent possibly 30 or 40 years with? No wife pic? Wedding? Baby son? Wayward sisters gang? Surely they would have been who he relied on most after Dean died. 21/?
31) Why was Samâs house so old looking? Surely he would have preferred something modern given the choice? Thereâs nothing nice/comforting about it. Samâs personality is all about fresh food, exercise, & being studious. This looked like a hermitâs cabin dwelling from the 70s 22/?
32) Why didnât Dean make the bed & why was his room messy? This was another OOC moment for him. Heâs always been a solider. Tidy & clean. Was this a detail to show that he was ready to retire & relax? But if so why include it just to kill him off? Was it a sign of grief? 23/?
33) Did they even try to get Cas back? Did Dean pray to him? Did they tell Claire that her kinda sorta surrogate father who wears her actual father's face had died? 24/?
34) Why the emphasis on Dean wanting to go to the beach and then never allowing him to go. He mentioned it a few times in the series. Couldn't he have at least parked at a beach instead of a bridge in Heaven to meet Sam? The bridge was a cliché crossing over symbolism imo. 25/?
35) The rebar doesn't make sense. Its a very random and dangerous placement in a barn that would generally be outfitted with the safety of animals and agriculture workers in mind. Its a very deus ex machina plot device 26/?
36) Dean's injury doesn't make sense. Did he puncture a lung? But then he wouldn't have been able to talk right? He also wouldn't have bled out because the rebar would have pressurized & stopped the worst of the bleed. Sam would have known this. Why didn't Sam call 911? 27/?
37) How does time pass differently in Heaven? Is it different for each person or is it a universal law? Is this a new thing? Did Jack change it? My theory is it works the opposite of Hell. So 40 years on Earth equals 4 months in Heaven. That way no one is separated for long 28/?
38) Was Cas restored to full power after he was rescued? Why emphasize his loss of power throughout the season if nothing came of it? Did he become human after Jack rescued him but he was dead & that's why he helped rebuild Heaven instead of returning to Dean 29/?
39) More about 15x19 - Why the emphasize on Cas being the only version of himself that didn't follow orders. Chuck mentions this specifically. It was Cas' love for Dean obviously but his deal with the Empty had nothing to do w/ Chunk? Cas should have been the ace in the hole 30/?
40) Why didn't John solve the vampire hunt all those years ago? And why didn't another hunter ever investigate? This vamp nest went unnoticed for this long but there wasn't anything special about it? 31/?
41) Why did the vampires cut out tongues? That's not a vamp thing to do? Was there a reason? Why did the MOTW care if the mother couldn't talk when they wore such weird identifiable masks and she could just draw a picture. 32/?
42) More of a critique - Why did Sam have to have a son? He could have had a daughter and named her Deanna. They could have given us a fun Winchester girl hunter. Was it to play on the "Carry on Wayward Son" unofficial, official theme? 33/?
43) Why did Sam appear to Dean first and not his wife when he arrived in Heaven? Ignoring the visual plot point, its weird right? She might still be alive but she wasn't at his bedside. Did they divorce? Poor Sam 34/?
Elaborating on previous ?s:
44) Does Cas have to work with Naomi now? Did Jack bring back all the angels? Gabriel? Michael? Hopefully not Lucifer
45) Did the Empty finally get to go back to sleep?
46) Was there significance behind "you made it loud" when Jack exploded 35/?
44) Does Cas have to work with Naomi now? Did Jack bring back all the angels? Gabriel? Michael? Hopefully not Lucifer
45) Did the Empty finally get to go back to sleep?
46) Was there significance behind "you made it loud" when Jack exploded 35/?
I feel like I need to include the
in the room:
47) Why have Cas confess a 'homosexual declaration of love' to Dean if there was never any intention to have Dean respond? It leaves a big unanswered question at the end of the series. Does Dean love Cas back in that way? 36/?
in the room:47) Why have Cas confess a 'homosexual declaration of love' to Dean if there was never any intention to have Dean respond? It leaves a big unanswered question at the end of the series. Does Dean love Cas back in that way? 36/?
Looping back to point #1:
48) Why didn't Cas go back to Dean after Jack rescued him? Did Jack ask Cas not too, to keep Heaven from interfering in human affairs or did Cas become human so that Empty couldn't keep him but he remains dead & that's why he had to stay in Heaven? 37/?
48) Why didn't Cas go back to Dean after Jack rescued him? Did Jack ask Cas not too, to keep Heaven from interfering in human affairs or did Cas become human so that Empty couldn't keep him but he remains dead & that's why he had to stay in Heaven? 37/?
Looping back to point #4:
49) @SeiranXL pointed out that S&D would still have their luck because they got it back from Fortuna w/ the coins in 15x11. So why didn't it save Dean this time? Why put effort into a good luck plot in 2 episodes for Dean to die in an accident? 38/?
49) @SeiranXL pointed out that S&D would still have their luck because they got it back from Fortuna w/ the coins in 15x11. So why didn't it save Dean this time? Why put effort into a good luck plot in 2 episodes for Dean to die in an accident? 38/?
Looping back to point #25:
50) It was pointed out to me that John went to Heaven after the S2 finale. However I still have an issue with John being so close to Dean in Heaven after all the childhood trauma and solider conditioning he put Sam and Dean through. 39/?
50) It was pointed out to me that John went to Heaven after the S2 finale. However I still have an issue with John being so close to Dean in Heaven after all the childhood trauma and solider conditioning he put Sam and Dean through. 39/?
51) @ranapamela pointed out the following: 40/? https://twitter.com/ranapamela/status/1330571172979863553?s=20
52) This missing detail was pointed out on one of the Impala Collector facebook pages: If the Heaven impala has the OG Kansas license plate ergo meaning it is Season 1/2 Baby why did it not have the spotlight attachments as well? 41/?
53) In the 15x18 Spanish Dub Dean says "y yo a ti" (me too) to Cas' "te amo" love confession. The Spanish wording leaves no room for argument. This was a romantic exchange! Why wasn't it included in the English version? The finale makes even less sense now #TheySilencedThem 42/?
54) Looping back to #19:
@haleykynz pointed out that Jack is a neutral god & would not rid the world of monsters, especially since some are good (Garth, Patience) So then how were Sam & Dean ever meant to retire like it was hinted at them working toward? https://twitter.com/haleykynz/status/1333858039145799680?s=20
@haleykynz pointed out that Jack is a neutral god & would not rid the world of monsters, especially since some are good (Garth, Patience) So then how were Sam & Dean ever meant to retire like it was hinted at them working toward? https://twitter.com/haleykynz/status/1333858039145799680?s=20
