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Comparing Artis Gilmore to other centers.
Artis’ prime was mainly in the ABA and there’s no real way of adjusting it, his NBA career is still largely better than almost every non top 6 center ever.
i will avoid his ABA stats and only use NBA stats, but a 7’2, 240lbs big who was athletically gifted could play in the NBA
i will avoid his ABA stats and only use NBA stats, but a 7’2, 240lbs big who was athletically gifted could play in the NBA
before we start, here are his ABA stats (1971-1976)
22.3ppg
17.1rpg
3.0apg
3.4bpg
55.7 FG%
59.1 TS%
.226 WS/48
very very good stats. even with a drop off he could still be elite.
so now let’s look at his NBA stats from 1977-1983 and compare them to some legends
22.3ppg
17.1rpg
3.0apg
3.4bpg
55.7 FG%
59.1 TS%
.226 WS/48
very very good stats. even with a drop off he could still be elite.
so now let’s look at his NBA stats from 1977-1983 and compare them to some legends
Artis Gilmore vs Willis Reed (1964-1971)
20.0 / 20.1 (PPG)
11.5 / 13.8 (RPG)
2.4 / 1.4 (APG)
2.2 / N/A (BPG)
35.6 / 36.9 (MPG)
60.7 / 47.7 (FG%)
65.1 / 52.5 (TS%)
22.0 / 19.0 (PER)
.192 / .158 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.5 (WS average per year)
20.0 / 20.1 (PPG)
11.5 / 13.8 (RPG)
2.4 / 1.4 (APG)
2.2 / N/A (BPG)
35.6 / 36.9 (MPG)
60.7 / 47.7 (FG%)
65.1 / 52.5 (TS%)
22.0 / 19.0 (PER)
.192 / .158 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.5 (WS average per year)
Artis Gilmore vs Wes Unseld (1968-1975)
20.0 / 12.4 (PPG)
11.5 / 15.9 (RPG)
2.4 / 3.6 (APG)
2.2 / N/A (BPG)
35.6 / 38.3 (MPG)
60.7 / 49.4 (FG%)
65.1 / 52.7 (TS%)
22.0 / 16.8 (PER)
.192 / .156 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.3 (WS average per year)
20.0 / 12.4 (PPG)
11.5 / 15.9 (RPG)
2.4 / 3.6 (APG)
2.2 / N/A (BPG)
35.6 / 38.3 (MPG)
60.7 / 49.4 (FG%)
65.1 / 52.7 (TS%)
22.0 / 16.8 (PER)
.192 / .156 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.3 (WS average per year)
Artis Gilmore vs Dave Cowens (1971-1978)
20.0 / 19.1 (PPG)
11.5 / 15.2 (RPG)
2.4 / 4.2 (APG)
2.2 / 1.0 (BPG)
35.6 / 40.7 (MPG)
60.7 / 46.4 (FG%)
65.1 / 50.0 (TS%)
22.0 / 17.9 (PER)
.192 / .155 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.6 (WS average per year)
20.0 / 19.1 (PPG)
11.5 / 15.2 (RPG)
2.4 / 4.2 (APG)
2.2 / 1.0 (BPG)
35.6 / 40.7 (MPG)
60.7 / 46.4 (FG%)
65.1 / 50.0 (TS%)
22.0 / 17.9 (PER)
.192 / .155 (WS/48)
10.9 / 9.6 (WS average per year)
Artis Gilmore vs Bob McAdoo (1973-1980)
20.0 / 29.1 (PPG)
11.3 / 12.8 (RPG)
2.4 / 3.0 (APG)
2.2 / 1.9 (BPG)
35.6 / 41.0 (MPG)
60.7 / 51.6 (FG%)
65.1 / 56.5 (TS%)
22.0 / 23.2 (PER)
.192 / .189 (WS/48)
10.9 / 11.9 (WS average per year)
Bob McAdoo is very very underrated
20.0 / 29.1 (PPG)
11.3 / 12.8 (RPG)
2.4 / 3.0 (APG)
2.2 / 1.9 (BPG)
35.6 / 41.0 (MPG)
60.7 / 51.6 (FG%)
65.1 / 56.5 (TS%)
22.0 / 23.2 (PER)
.192 / .189 (WS/48)
10.9 / 11.9 (WS average per year)
Bob McAdoo is very very underrated
So Artis Gilmore out of his prime in the NBA was just better or even to every center of his era’s prime except Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (obviously).
All of those guys are seen as top 15 Cs and Gilmore was better than them even without his prime considered. Let’s look outside the 70s
All of those guys are seen as top 15 Cs and Gilmore was better than them even without his prime considered. Let’s look outside the 70s
Artis Gilmore vs Dwight Howard (2007-2013)
20.0 / 20.0 (PPG)
11.3 / 13.7 (RPG)
2.4 / 1.5 (APG)
2.2 / 2.5 (BPG)
35.6 / 36.5 (MPG)
60.7 / 58.8 (FG%)
65.1 / 60.3 (TS%)
22.0 / 23.7 (PER)
.192 / .202 (WS/48)
10.9 / 10.0 (WS average per year)
20.0 / 20.0 (PPG)
11.3 / 13.7 (RPG)
2.4 / 1.5 (APG)
2.2 / 2.5 (BPG)
35.6 / 36.5 (MPG)
60.7 / 58.8 (FG%)
65.1 / 60.3 (TS%)
22.0 / 23.7 (PER)
.192 / .202 (WS/48)
10.9 / 10.0 (WS average per year)
Those stats are very similar. Artis Gilmore is a top 10 center ever
