While I get the point you’re trying to make, I want to deconstruct some of these points here with some friendly constructive criticism from the perspective of someone with schizophrenia and autism (don’t think I’m hating, I just feel some things ought to be pointed out to you) https://twitter.com/occulttherapist/status/1300382194314158081

So, firstly, please, please do not describe people as “drooling vegetables incapable of higher thought”. People with cognitive disabilities exist and using this as a negative qualifier is rather ableist.

A friend of mine has the trait of drooling and has been described as a “vegetable” before because she can’t walk and struggles with a lot of processing, and it’s quite upsetting to see leftists using such hurtful language

Secondly, people with emotional disabilities. Many of us struggle to feel certain things but that doesn’t make us incapable of relating to others or incapable of “higher thought”. I myself have experience with this.

Part of schizophrenia that’s not often talked about is the severe anhedonia, apathy, and numbness that strikes us when we’re in a bad place. It genuinely does feel like we’re just not feeling anything at all emotionally, and subsequently we don’t have emotional responses

But this doesn’t make us “incapable of higher thought”, we are still capable of many many things and when writing the book we’re working on, our most productive spurt yet was in a moment just like this that lasted 2 days (we got 40 pages double spaced done)

It’s quite upsetting to see people assert that you need something we don’t always have to have “higher thought”, even though we experience “higher though” in this state. This being said, the idea of “ranking” thought doesn’t really sit right with us either.

It feels like a view point that would invalidate the experiences, ideas and view points of people with cognitive disabilities as merely being “lesser” and not as “thought out”, which is again, quite ableist and hurtful.

We get what you’re trying to say, which is that feelings are important and the view of “facts over feelings” is bad (it’s awful and ableist in its own ways), but this particular deconstruction of that view has its own hurtful flaws and aspects.

The entire construct of rationalism rejects emotion yes, but that’s not because emotion makes us human and is essential to cognition or something like that, it’s because it’s a way of ignoring the feelings of the oppressed and convincing them to internalise self hating ideas

As a schizophrenic system, we’re typically seen as “irrational” etc, but this is because the entire construct of rationality, not just it’s components, are ableist. It’s centring neurotypical oppressors point of view above all else and making it the only arbiter of reality.

Thus dismissing the realities and understandings of the world of neurodivergent people such as myself. If to be “rational” is to be human, then we are not human. Because to be “rational” is to perceive things not correctly, but neurotypically.

In other words, rationality doesn’t really exist but is a word for the hegemony of the oppressing classes vision of neurotypicalness. And in this way it becomes circular; it’s rational because neurotypicalness is seen as “correct” and it’s “correct” because it’s rational

But yeah, I am not making this thread to hate on you, it’s just some of the ideas you’re perpetuating are genuinely hurtful to us and others, and we’d appreciate it if you’d listen to our perspective and work on that a little.

Ableism is everywhere and we all need to fight it in ourselves, and I hope you’ll agree and work on this. (Also, not questioning your moral character or condemning you, I just think you made a few mistakes due to being ill informed that ought to be corrected )

I hope you find this thread informative, and I hope it helps you to change your perspective on some things