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Rational perspective on election fraud:
In any given election there will be some fraud.
As the true margin gets closer and closer to 0, the probability of fraud being the deciding factor increases.
Fraud isn't a yes/no, it's a number - how many net votes are fraudulent?
In any given election there will be some fraud.
As the true margin gets closer and closer to 0, the probability of fraud being the deciding factor increases.
Fraud isn't a yes/no, it's a number - how many net votes are fraudulent?
In 1962, several election workers were convicted of election fraud in the 1960 Kennedy/Nixon race. Convicted and sent to jail; not merely accused.
Obviously, there will always be some background level of this, and likely on both sides (though unequal) https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765
Obviously, there will always be some background level of this, and likely on both sides (though unequal) https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765
It seems that in the '60s, Nixon basically acquiesced:
"At Richard Nixon's request, Mazo met him at the vice president's Senate office, where Nixon told him to back off, saying, "Our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis" in the midst of the Cold War."
"At Richard Nixon's request, Mazo met him at the vice president's Senate office, where Nixon told him to back off, saying, "Our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis" in the midst of the Cold War."
Trump isn't going to acquiesce, and if the election is really close he will have a strong incentive to claim fraud even if he personally thinks fraud wasn't decisive.
The USA could be heading for a troubled few weeks, especially if AZ goes Republican.
The USA could be heading for a troubled few weeks, especially if AZ goes Republican.
Key takeaway: the question isn't "was there fraud?". It's "was the fraud the decisive factor?" (as well as which side did more fraud, as I am absolutely sure that both sides created at least 1 fraudulent vote).
Also to note: things that look like really obvious fraud (like 23,500 Dem votes "appearing" all at once) almost certainly isn't fraud.
Anyone committing fraud will not dump huge, uniform blocks of their preferred candidate. That's just too obvious.
Anyone committing fraud will not dump huge, uniform blocks of their preferred candidate. That's just too obvious.
These uniform blocks are almost certainly pre-sorted in some way - perhaps after counting but before adding to a final database.
So if this election comes down to 1000 votes in PA or AZ, then yes I am fairly confident that fraud or error (or both) were decisive factors, but proving it is unlikely as the fraud will probably be distributed among many small incidents with a few larger ones.
For example, in Florida in 2000, 1100 ELIGIBLE voters were wrongly prevented from voting. But thousands more felons (likely Dems) were wrongly allowed to vote.
The Florida margin was only 537.
https://archive.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/headlines01/0527-03.htm
The Florida margin was only 537.
https://archive.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/headlines01/0527-03.htm
Another interesting datapoint: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-philadelphia-judge-elections-convicted-conspiring-violate-civil-rights-and-bribery
"Myers would solicit payments from his clients in the form of cash or checks as “consulting fees,” and then use portions of these funds to pay Demuro and others in return for tampering with election results. ... "
" ... After receiving payments ranging from between $300 to $5,000 per election from the consultant, the court papers allege Demuro would add fraudulent votes on the voting machine – also known as “ringing up” votes – for Myers’ clients and preferred candidates"
https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-fraud-philadelphia-ward-leader-judge-of-elections-domenick-demuro-guilty-plea-20200521.html
"DeMuro inflated vote totals by adding 27 fraudulent ballots in the primary election, 40 votes in May 2015, and 46 in 2016, according to court documents outlining the scheme and the charges against him"
"DeMuro inflated vote totals by adding 27 fraudulent ballots in the primary election, 40 votes in May 2015, and 46 in 2016, according to court documents outlining the scheme and the charges against him"
