Analysis of career-arc progression of top players with long careers.
The results will allow us to:
1) Compare a player's career arc (inc. decline phase) vs. the "typical" arc of a top player with a long career.
2) Make projections about:
Players w/ short careers.
Active players
The results will allow us to:
1) Compare a player's career arc (inc. decline phase) vs. the "typical" arc of a top player with a long career.
2) Make projections about:
Players w/ short careers.
Active players
Career-arc progression of top players with long careers.
Thread.
@HunidLikeWilt
@LeaguePasshole
@Wilts_GOAT
@DlONWAlTERS
@GreekGodofStats
Thread.
@HunidLikeWilt
@LeaguePasshole
@Wilts_GOAT
@DlONWAlTERS
@GreekGodofStats
Project Method:
Took stats of 25 top RETIRED players (5 from each position) with long careers. "Long" based on career games and career minutes played.
Took stats of 25 top RETIRED players (5 from each position) with long careers. "Long" based on career games and career minutes played.
Players in study:
Parish
Kareem
M. Malone
Olajuwon
Shaq
Dirk
K. Malone
Garnett
Duncan
Hayes
Pierce
Havlicek
English
Pippen
D. Wilkins
Carter
Miller
Kobe
Allen
Joe Johnson
Stockton
Kidd
Payton
Parker
Nash
Observation:
C & PF: Longest careers
SF & SG: Shortest
PG: In middle
Parish
Kareem
M. Malone
Olajuwon
Shaq
Dirk
K. Malone
Garnett
Duncan
Hayes
Pierce
Havlicek
English
Pippen
D. Wilkins
Carter
Miller
Kobe
Allen
Joe Johnson
Stockton
Kidd
Payton
Parker
Nash
Observation:
C & PF: Longest careers
SF & SG: Shortest
PG: In middle
For all 25 players:
Adjusted all of each year's stats to league average, 1955-2019.
Adjusted all of each year's stats to 36 MP. (But I also will look at each year's stats based on actual per game.)
I averaged all these adjusted stats:
By position: 5 players
Overall: 25 players
Adjusted all of each year's stats to league average, 1955-2019.
Adjusted all of each year's stats to 36 MP. (But I also will look at each year's stats based on actual per game.)
I averaged all these adjusted stats:
By position: 5 players
Overall: 25 players
There's a lot you can do with this information.
But in the rest of this thread, I'll simply compare career arc of Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, and LeBron to the "typical" career arc of top players with longevity.
But in the rest of this thread, I'll simply compare career arc of Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, and LeBron to the "typical" career arc of top players with longevity.
Career arc:
Wilt's stats (adjusted for era & 36 MP) vs. top center's stats:
PTS/36: Downward trend more than average top center
TS% & REB: Similar trend to average top center
AST/36: Upward trend more than average top center
Wilt's stats (adjusted for era & 36 MP) vs. top center's stats:
PTS/36: Downward trend more than average top center
TS% & REB: Similar trend to average top center
AST/36: Upward trend more than average top center
Career arc:
Kareem's stats (adjusted for era & 36 MP) vs. top center's stats:
PTS & TS%: Similar trend to average top center
REB: Downward trend more than average top center
AST: Above average top center, but downward last 10 yrs
Kareem's stats (adjusted for era & 36 MP) vs. top center's stats:
PTS & TS%: Similar trend to average top center
REB: Downward trend more than average top center
AST: Above average top center, but downward last 10 yrs
Jordan's stats (adjusted for era & 36 MP) vs. top SG's stats:
PTS/36: Similar trend (but higher) to average top SG
TS%: Similar trend, except last 2 yrs w/ Wizards
REB/36: After first 4 yrs, jumps up
AST/36: Similar trend to SG, except for 1989 (when he played some PG) and 2002
PTS/36: Similar trend (but higher) to average top SG
TS%: Similar trend, except last 2 yrs w/ Wizards
REB/36: After first 4 yrs, jumps up
AST/36: Similar trend to SG, except for 1989 (when he played some PG) and 2002