Bush 00: 24.1% of Eligible Voters
Gore 00: 24.3%
Kerry 04 26.9%
W 04 28.2%
McCain 08 26.1%
Obama 08 30.2%
Romney 12: 25.9%
Obama 12 28.1%
DT 16: 25.6%
HRC 16 26.7%
High mark for the GOP is W in 04 https://twitter.com/streethistory/status/1323450368836227078
Gore 00: 24.3%
Kerry 04 26.9%
W 04 28.2%
McCain 08 26.1%
Obama 08 30.2%
Romney 12: 25.9%
Obama 12 28.1%
DT 16: 25.6%
HRC 16 26.7%
High mark for the GOP is W in 04 https://twitter.com/streethistory/status/1323450368836227078
Let's stretch this out a bit.
at 67% turnout with the GOP hitting their High mark of W in 04 it would be
Biden 38.8% of Eligible voters and
DT 28.2% of Eligible voters.
That would be Biden 58/42 and a landslide.
at 67% turnout with the GOP hitting their High mark of W in 04 it would be
Biden 38.8% of Eligible voters and
DT 28.2% of Eligible voters.
That would be Biden 58/42 and a landslide.
If DT hits Obama 08 levels of % of Eligible voters?
That would be
Biden 36.8% of the eligible voters
DT 30.2% of eligible voters or
Biden 55/45 or basically the 538 average a week ago.
That would be
Biden 36.8% of the eligible voters
DT 30.2% of eligible voters or
Biden 55/45 or basically the 538 average a week ago.
This, again, is why the polling error is going to be in line with 2012 not 2016.
How is a president who's been ten points underwater in approval ratings for the last 2 years winning the turnout wave election of all turnout wave elections?
How is a president who's been ten points underwater in approval ratings for the last 2 years winning the turnout wave election of all turnout wave elections?
If I work 6 scenarios
Turnout at 160 or 170 million
with a nominal 3rd party vote and DT with
W in 04 or Obama in 08 or Reagan in 84 turnout?
I get
160m:
W: Biden 57/42 +15
O: Biden 54/45 +9
R: Biden 52/47 +5
170m:
W: Biden 58/40 +18
O: Biden 55/42 +13
R: Biden 54/44 +10
Turnout at 160 or 170 million
with a nominal 3rd party vote and DT with
W in 04 or Obama in 08 or Reagan in 84 turnout?
I get
160m:
W: Biden 57/42 +15
O: Biden 54/45 +9
R: Biden 52/47 +5
170m:
W: Biden 58/40 +18
O: Biden 55/42 +13
R: Biden 54/44 +10
Basically? At these levels of turnout, DT would need Regan level turnout from the GOP to have a shot at stealing the electoral college narrowly.
And that chance rapidly disappears as you add more turnout.
And that chance rapidly disappears as you add more turnout.
Ultimately, making "I'm going to steal your vote" a significant part of the closing argument might have been a big blunder.
If the President just gets his 2016 base to turnout or he has bad turnout? This gets super ugly.