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Chapter (not 'Article') 61 was in original Magna Carta of 1215
This is the @britishlibrary's English translation of the original at https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation
There is nothing in it about putting the Chapter in a shop window to avoid closure during a coronavirus lockdown
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This is the @britishlibrary's English translation of the original at https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation
There is nothing in it about putting the Chapter in a shop window to avoid closure during a coronavirus lockdown
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Chapter 61 provided for a security power to be given to 25 barons
"The barons shall elect twenty-five of their number to keep, and cause to be observed with all their might, the peace and liberties granted and confirmed to them by this charter."
Nobody else
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"The barons shall elect twenty-five of their number to keep, and cause to be observed with all their might, the peace and liberties granted and confirmed to them by this charter."
Nobody else
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Chapter 61, however, was removed from the Great Charter of 1215
It was removed in, well, 1216
So not only does it not mention shop windows, and only protect barons, but it did not last a year
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It was removed in, well, 1216
So not only does it not mention shop windows, and only protect barons, but it did not last a year
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There is no sensible explanation for why a provision that was only in force 1215-6 and then only granted a power to 25 barons would have the effect in 2020 of preventing a shop being closed under public health regulations if it is placed in a shop window
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It is also not 'the' Magna Carta, @britishlivesUk, thank you
Like with Domesday Book, by convention there is no definite article
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Like with Domesday Book, by convention there is no definite article
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(For newer followers, one purpose of this account since the anniversary of Magna Carta in 2115 has been to combat daftness about this (overrated) legal instrument
My insistence on there not being 'the' is not serious - it is my playful derision of those who take it seriously)
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My insistence on there not being 'the' is not serious - it is my playful derision of those who take it seriously)
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Yet
There is a serious point here
The lack of a constitutionalist tradition in UK means that so many people invoke "Magna Carta" and "Bill of Rights" in support of the daftest propositions
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There is a serious point here
The lack of a constitutionalist tradition in UK means that so many people invoke "Magna Carta" and "Bill of Rights" in support of the daftest propositions
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Americans can point to their constitutional protections in accessible portable documents
We cannot
And so we get this olde Englishe mythe making instead
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We cannot
And so we get this olde Englishe mythe making instead
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Anyway:
The parts of Magna Carta still in force are here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Edw1cc1929/25/9/contents
A good speech by Sumption from 2015: https://www.supremecourt.uk/docs/speech-150309.pdf
A @ukhumanrightsb post https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2015/03/16/high-minded-tosh-the-current-brouhaha-about-the-magna-carta/
And my 2015 piece on the 'myth of Magna Carta' https://www.ft.com/content/03c77338-762d-3c99-8fef-a902b1a4ad4c
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The parts of Magna Carta still in force are here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Edw1cc1929/25/9/contents
A good speech by Sumption from 2015: https://www.supremecourt.uk/docs/speech-150309.pdf
A @ukhumanrightsb post https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2015/03/16/high-minded-tosh-the-current-brouhaha-about-the-magna-carta/
And my 2015 piece on the 'myth of Magna Carta' https://www.ft.com/content/03c77338-762d-3c99-8fef-a902b1a4ad4c
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Finally
In punishment for tweeting about Magna Carta, I can assure you I have had inflicted every possible joke and pun about Magna Carta, from Hancock to Caine to ice creams
Please no more: I am sure there is a right against this torture somewhere in Magna Carta...
/ends
In punishment for tweeting about Magna Carta, I can assure you I have had inflicted every possible joke and pun about Magna Carta, from Hancock to Caine to ice creams
Please no more: I am sure there is a right against this torture somewhere in Magna Carta...
/ends
ps
ok, I surrender
Here is my fellow Brummie commentator on Magna Carta, Anthony Aloysius Hancock
ok, I surrender
Here is my fellow Brummie commentator on Magna Carta, Anthony Aloysius Hancock
Wait until these 'patriots' discover that Magna Carta was not even written in English
No good reason whatsoever
I only insist as a mild playful protest against taking anything about Magna Carta seriously
(Something about there not being definite articles in Latin I think) https://twitter.com/daniel_koczy/status/1323317309679767558
I only insist as a mild playful protest against taking anything about Magna Carta seriously
(Something about there not being definite articles in Latin I think) https://twitter.com/daniel_koczy/status/1323317309679767558
