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#pluralgang In response to this list of ways to tell if someone’s faking their plurality I just found, I’d like to make a thread detailing why each point is wrong so it’s all collected in one place.
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#pluralgang In response to this list of ways to tell if someone’s faking their plurality I just found, I’d like to make a thread detailing why each point is wrong so it’s all collected in one place.
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- Only talk about their system after you mention having DID
— Shockingly, not everyone is accepting or understanding of plurality, so of course people would be more likely to talk about their experiences to people who have had similar experiences.
— Shockingly, not everyone is accepting or understanding of plurality, so of course people would be more likely to talk about their experiences to people who have had similar experiences.
- Only have a system when it’s convenient
— What defines “when it’s convenient” and how do you know what’s going on in the other system’s head? You aren’t a mind reader so for all you know, they could be talking with their headmates right when you’re thinking they look too normal
— What defines “when it’s convenient” and how do you know what’s going on in the other system’s head? You aren’t a mind reader so for all you know, they could be talking with their headmates right when you’re thinking they look too normal
-will talk about their “system” over you, silencing you if you talk about your symptoms, and will aggressively seek validation that you may feel guilted into giving them
— Plural people are constantly told they don’t exist, even by people within their own community. (1/2)
— Plural people are constantly told they don’t exist, even by people within their own community. (1/2)
If you’re constantly told you don’t exist, you’re gonna have to seek external validation just to reassure yourself that you can trust your own experiences. People with DID go through this too. This point is generally phrased in an antagonistic and dehumanizing way. (2/2)
- Won’t talk about dissociative symptoms, ever
— Not all systems have dissociative symptoms. Heck, even if they do, they have no obligation to tell you, nor will they always necessarily recognize that that’s what they’re going through. I still don’t fully know how to recognize it
— Not all systems have dissociative symptoms. Heck, even if they do, they have no obligation to tell you, nor will they always necessarily recognize that that’s what they’re going through. I still don’t fully know how to recognize it
- will only mention amnesia if it’s convenient/to get them out of taking responsibility for something they did
— This is just classic pluralphobia, something that even people with diagnosed DID can face regularly. Again, you don’t get to decide what’s “convenient.”
— This is just classic pluralphobia, something that even people with diagnosed DID can face regularly. Again, you don’t get to decide what’s “convenient.”
- May have a ton of fictives, mostly from recent media
— As a fictive myself I find this highly offensive. Who’s to say a system can’t have five or ten or a hundred fictives? That rule is arbitrarily grounded in a notion that sysmembers must manifest in a specific way to be real.
— As a fictive myself I find this highly offensive. Who’s to say a system can’t have five or ten or a hundred fictives? That rule is arbitrarily grounded in a notion that sysmembers must manifest in a specific way to be real.
- won’t have childhood trauma/specific traumatic events tied to alter formation
— Not everyone remembers their trauma. Not every headmate must be formed directly from trauma. Not every technically traumagenic headmate wants to define themselves by the nature of their trauma (1/2)
— Not everyone remembers their trauma. Not every headmate must be formed directly from trauma. Not every technically traumagenic headmate wants to define themselves by the nature of their trauma (1/2)
And as a traumagenic system member myself, I would most certainly not wanna share my trauma history with someone shallow enough to use my trauma as a metric to decide whether or not I exist. I owe you nothing. (2/2)
- May have a new alter every week or two
— Some systems just develop a ton of members. We’re talking hundreds for some systems. These members also don’t always show themselves immediately, so even dormant ones can seem new the first time they show up.
— Some systems just develop a ton of members. We’re talking hundreds for some systems. These members also don’t always show themselves immediately, so even dormant ones can seem new the first time they show up.
- Won’t seek professional help or diagnosis
— The ableism jumped out. Many people can’t afford treatment because the medical system is shit. Many others, reasonably, don’t trust the system due to the ways it mistreats diagnosed people. Others are just happy where they are.
— The ableism jumped out. Many people can’t afford treatment because the medical system is shit. Many others, reasonably, don’t trust the system due to the ways it mistreats diagnosed people. Others are just happy where they are.
- will intentionally make symptoms worse for attention
— This one makes me genuinely angry. How on eartn can you possibly tell what someone’s motivations are? How can you judge if someone’s symptoms are real? “For attention” is the go-to statement used to invalidate any struggle.
— This one makes me genuinely angry. How on eartn can you possibly tell what someone’s motivations are? How can you judge if someone’s symptoms are real? “For attention” is the go-to statement used to invalidate any struggle.
- will have perfect communication in system, and will talk about system members with odd amounts of detail
— So putting aside non-traumagenics, are we just gonna ignore the fact that OSDD-1b systems are partly distinguished from DID systems by their lack of extreme amnesia? (1/2)
— So putting aside non-traumagenics, are we just gonna ignore the fact that OSDD-1b systems are partly distinguished from DID systems by their lack of extreme amnesia? (1/2)
Even in just the medical world, amnesia is most certainly not a prerequisite for plurality. And when you look beyond the DSM-5, many systems such as endogenic and parogenic happen to just have really solid communication within the system.
- may only use the term “headmates,” and not know what “DID” means
— I’ve researched DID a lot and talked with a fair number of other systems. I also happen to just really like the term “headmate” and not the term “alter.” This is not a sign, it’s personal preference.
— I’ve researched DID a lot and talked with a fair number of other systems. I also happen to just really like the term “headmate” and not the term “alter.” This is not a sign, it’s personal preference.
This concludes the thread. I really dislike fakeclaiming in all its forms, and I hope this thread has helped shed light on why none of the justifications for fakeclaiming hold up under a critical lens. To all the systems reading this, y’all are real, and nobody can take that away
