So this interview's really interesting in retrospect, I think Graeber got Trump's relation to empire completely wrong because he ignored the implications of his own most important point, which is the tension between

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Trump's desire for a weak dollar (to rebuild the manufacturing sector, which Graeber mostly seems to ignore in favor of real estate make work for some reason) vs his finance allies' desire for a strong dollar to underwrite the value of their

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assets. The only way to resolve this contradiction is by trying to force other countries to increase the value of their currency Reagan style (Plaza Accords) at gunpoint, but you can't actually do that to China because China has nuclear weapons

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and isn't an American military protectorate. The solution to this is to play American nationalism against American finance and launch a nationalist anti-China campaign, which manifested as the trade war. This I think was the most important part of

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Trump's strategy, it's why he was tweeting about China even after the burning of the prescient in Minneapolis and didn't really start fully focusing on the protests until he got driven into his bunker. What's interesting is that Biden, who's

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backers are in large part the financial class, decided to take up the nationalist anti-China line in response to COVID as a weapon against Trump. I think that's because between the two forms of American populism the policy proposals of left

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populism (which is a distinct thing from socialism but this isn't the place to expand on that) and the racist core of right populism the racism is more palatable to Biden's allies, especially since the war with China shit can be played up in the

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media while actual relations are normalized to the point where finance can extract its profits. This of course involves throwing Chinese Americans to the fucking wolves but that's a price Biden and Trump are willing to pay.

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