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Crow's Session 2 PED discussion
(Che: Part 1, 2008)
— What made this specific revolution accessible, and why?
(Che: Part 1, 2008)
— What made this specific revolution accessible, and why?
—— They did training (not just defense) so people could learn to read/write, and needed help in ways that were beyond the typical guerrilla 'fighter', it wasn't as based in machismo as others
—— building revolutionary infrasctructure (schools for reading and writing etc.)
—— building revolutionary infrasctructure (schools for reading and writing etc.)
—— making sure people understood what they were doing and why, debriefing
—— Not everyone needed to be on a firing team
—— guides on paths
—— can't be a misogynist and a revolutionary at the same time
—— knowledge of the land
—— medical stations
—— emotional support
—— Not everyone needed to be on a firing team
—— guides on paths
—— can't be a misogynist and a revolutionary at the same time
—— knowledge of the land
—— medical stations
—— emotional support
—— how they treated enemy combatants
—— "If people hate their government, it is not too difficult to take it down." Also helps with making it accessible. If issues are properly addressed, it is not that hard to get people on your side.
—— "If people hate their government, it is not too difficult to take it down." Also helps with making it accessible. If issues are properly addressed, it is not that hard to get people on your side.
—— propaganda arm
———show the people options and that there's no others and show them the possibility of winning
——— mutual aid, outreach
————Their refusal to capitulate to landlords made them look like a more serious option.
———show the people options and that there's no others and show them the possibility of winning
——— mutual aid, outreach
————Their refusal to capitulate to landlords made them look like a more serious option.
— What strategies were used to win armed struggle conflict?
—— Clear goals everyone understands
—— outreach builds connections builds supply lines
—— variety of tactics
—— Clear goals everyone understands
—— outreach builds connections builds supply lines
—— variety of tactics
—— They supported the gen. strike when that was popularly viewed as a real 'option', and only because of that perception.
Cont'd
Only when it was clear that was never going to work could they promote heavier tactics, and what began as a war of small bands in the woods became open urban warfare. It stressed the importance of knowing when to advance and when to do more base-building work.
Only when it was clear that was never going to work could they promote heavier tactics, and what began as a war of small bands in the woods became open urban warfare. It stressed the importance of knowing when to advance and when to do more base-building work.
—— The level of discipline was also vital to their success. They were living through hell, especially at the start.
—— limitations on the number of objectives
—— limitations on the number of objectives
—— "We need you here."
—— Have connections in places
——— connections from within the community working directly with your guerrilla forces with major stake in the success of the revolution.
——— connections from within the community working directly with your guerrilla forces with major stake in the success of the revolution.
— What tactics were used to win armed struggle conflict?
—— quick battles or retreat
—— guerilla warfare understands that material conditions determine the tactics
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—— quick battles or retreat
—— guerilla warfare understands that material conditions determine the tactics
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—— The support of the people was central to their guerrilla tactics because that's where the victory is based in. It is most often a 'losing'war against an enemy with far superior force, but people who refuse to be go along with that enemy will continue the fight.
—— Observation, conversation, planning, infiltration, and even things like theft against the enemy. Propaganda of the deed, including things like mutual aid, training, etc
— Mil. Sci. Tactics of small army vs big bad enemy
—— Pincer / Encirclement
—— High Ground
—— Propaganda warfare / support of the people
—— indefinite war, not letting up "love for 'humanity'" ; will and resolve
—— constant momement
—— Pincer / Encirclement
—— High Ground
—— Propaganda warfare / support of the people
—— indefinite war, not letting up "love for 'humanity'" ; will and resolve
—— constant momement
—— accuracy and not wasting resources; getting enemy to waste resources
—— sabotage; spycraft and deceit
—— dual power
—— never leaving
—— sabotage; spycraft and deceit
—— dual power
—— never leaving
—— small numbers means smaller battles less losses ("There was never a huge battle with hundreds/thousands of soldiers. At most a few dozen")
—— prioritize targets and objectives (surgical strikes)
—— mobility; not trying to "be a hero"
—— maintain a standard of communication
—— prioritize targets and objectives (surgical strikes)
—— mobility; not trying to "be a hero"
—— maintain a standard of communication
—— opsec; vetting people ; getting the right people
—— enemy's weapons so they can be used for the revolution was also important, if not explicit. (ie Intel)
—— encirclement with small squads + psych warfare
—— enemy's weapons so they can be used for the revolution was also important, if not explicit. (ie Intel)
—— encirclement with small squads + psych warfare
"There was never a huge battle with hundreds/thousands of soldiers. At most a few dozen"
"The squads a lot of the time even divided into pairs
I think it is also important to note that size needs can change based on terrain and phase of the conflict"
I think it is also important to note that size needs can change based on terrain and phase of the conflict"
— "We won the war, the revolution starts now."
What is the importance of diplomacy in guerilla warfare?
—— It is much simpler to win a military conflict than to uphold the values for which it was fought.
—— "The struggle shapes the ends."
What is the importance of diplomacy in guerilla warfare?
—— It is much simpler to win a military conflict than to uphold the values for which it was fought.
—— "The struggle shapes the ends."
—— Discipline; making examples of those who do not uphold revolutionary ideals (ie people who stole identities of revolutionaries they had joined for arms to SA got executed in front of family)
—— mass line and consultation
—— mass line and consultation
— utilization of power dynamics within the enemy's military
—— propaganda of the deed / success to prove to people it's viable
—— microcosms of power dynamics are important (ie the soldiers overpowered will of commander)
—— propaganda of the deed / success to prove to people it's viable
—— microcosms of power dynamics are important (ie the soldiers overpowered will of commander)
—— fear/punishment/carcerality, not anything that even served most of the people on the force... revolutionary example of the guerrillas was too great to deny their superior moral authority, or whatever you'd want to call it.
—— It kills morale when the servants of the system see it as a losing battle even when they have superior arms.
— What conditions made this revolution possible?
—— Privatization of land
—— Consolidation of capital
—— Bending to US power (imperialism)
—— Ongoing abuses from police and judges
—— Privatization of land
—— Consolidation of capital
—— Bending to US power (imperialism)
—— Ongoing abuses from police and judges
—— Fidel's attempt to take Moncadas Barracks
—— exhausted all legal options
—— spearheaded movements (arguments about ideological differences were resolved / abandoned early on to prefer material conditions and the tactics/strategies that would be most efficient in them)
—— exhausted all legal options
—— spearheaded movements (arguments about ideological differences were resolved / abandoned early on to prefer material conditions and the tactics/strategies that would be most efficient in them)
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