svt’s mistreatment by pledis: a thread
before we start

- some things in here are just accusations/things ive seen ppl say a lot. so even tho i believe everything in here has happened, it’s possible some things are mere accusations

-i am in no way trying to imply that every issue svt has ever been involved in is+
entirely the fault of the company. svt have undoubtedly made some mistakes but at the same time, a lot of the reason for them not taking accountability for them is BECAUSE of pledis entertainment

- if you think there’s something i missed or want me to include, pls quote/dm me it
as this thread is focused on svt, im only going to be discussing in detail their specific mistreatment as a group, but i do want to mention that pledis have a long history of mismanaging/mistreating their artists (orange caramel, after school, pristin, nuest, etc)

ok here we go
1. seventeen basically saved pledis from bankruptcy, as they had some pretty quick success as a group. however, even though seventeen practically pulled them out of bankruptcy, pledis chose to repay them by not providing the members with in-ear monitors during several stages.
in-ear monitors help the artist to better hear themselves as they sing/perform, and not having these can obviously make performing a lot more difficult. if you watch certain adore u & pretty u stages, you will notice many of the members do not have in-ear monitors. pledis+
directly told them if they wanted in-ear monitors that they would have to pay for it themselves, but unfortunately monitors are quite expensive and the members wouldn’t just be able to cough up enough money to pay for them themselves so early on. a lot of the members resorted to+
to asking their families for help, while others either chose to wear regular headphones on stage or nothing at all. clearly, pledis have been sabotaging svt even as early on as their debut stages.

2. actually, svt have endured a significant amount of mistreatment even before+
debuting under the company. as a lot of footage from svt’s pre-debut days has shown, there were many times in which the boys were treated badly by staff. in fact, one of the members was scolded for speaking in a different dialect after they had been “warned about this before.”
tw // mention of abuse , weight , food habits

what kind of company would criticize the way members SPEAK? also, pledis have been accused of degrading members for their weight & encouraging diets. staff had allegedly hit seungkwan in the head & told him he needed to lose weight.
it disgusts me to know that the members have likely been suffering years of verbal and physical abuse by the same staff that should be building them up and supporting them.
3. for context, this clip is from 17 project (svt’s debut show) and the members were expected to remember choreos they haven’t performed in years as a mission. i wanted to include this bc i didn’t like the way HSS spoke to hoshi here.
i understand he’s their ceo and that he’s not going to be all unicorns and rainbows towards them all the time, but i still felt as if he was speaking very coldly and it was just uncomfortable to watch (ive watched 17 project multiple times and it's still just as hard every time)
4. here’s another clip from 17 project that was uncomfortable to watch
5. pledis have also been accused of stealing the food/gifts that svt were given by fans. i can recall an incident where a fan site had given vernon clothes as a gift, but later on, this same fan site expressed that a staff had stolen it from the table, making them super upset.+
i’m not completely sure that this is all 100% accurate and happened, but like i mentioned earlier, i wouldn’t doubt that this is true. also, pledis staff have allegedly scolded members in front of fans on several occasions.
6. one issue that came about recently is pledis’s inability to acknowledge important issues that either svt/the company itself has been involved in. for instance, in one of the recent gose episodes, wonwoo sang part of ‘curry’ by norazo, an incredibly racist & offensive song.+
later, it was revealed that members dk & vernon have also sung this song before in a video from earlier this year. many i-carats were rightfully upset and hurt by this regardless of the members’ intentions, so i-carats took immediate action to mass email pledis about the issue.+
pledis ignored all of our emails & concerns for days, and we know they were ignoring us bc with the number of fans that had been emailing/tweeting them, theres no way they didn’t see it. this only made fans more upset/ angry, & wonwoo’s bday came around still with no statement.+
his bday vlive was extremely uncomfortable to watch, as everything he was saying/doing was being closely monitored by staff and he just seemed super uncomfortable through the entire thing. staff even kept him from making song recs on his own live & there is no need for a company+
to have that much power over someone. fast forward to weeks later, pledis still have not acknowledged the issue. it had even reached the news at this point, and still nothing to come from pledis entertainment.
“maybe pledis still didn’t know, maybe we shouldn’t assume.” WRONG!!!! even when time magazine directly reached out to pledis regarding the incident, the company chose not to respond to/speak on it at all.
it was really upsetting to see pledis so easily brush off tons of fans who had felt hurt by a group they admire so deeply. if a member from norazo could apologize for the offensive song, why couldn’t pledis allow svt to apologize for singing it? it just doesn’t make sense.
7. another big issue with pledis is their inability to properly credit music artists after sampling their songs. i’m not saying it’s only the company, as i would think woozi has some sort of say in credits, but i feel the blame is mainly on pledis for not doing proper business.+
this has happened in 2017 with the chainsmokers regarding ‘don’t wanna cry’ and just recently with cupid regarding ‘left & right.’ while pledis eventually spoke about the credit issue with the chainsmokers, it still took them several months to acknowledge. as for the current+
situation with cupid, pledis have yet to respond to his emails as well as emails sent by tons of carats asking for him to receive the proper credit/pay he deserves. if pledis don’t act soon, there will likely be legal action against them.+
as disappointing as this is, this is far from the first time pledis failed to give proper credit. in fact, in 2016, pledis canceled copyrights registered in hoshi’s name so they could reduce any money they shared with him. basically, pledis chose to dismiss hoshi’s (as well as
performance unit’s) hard work towards making choreo just so they could make more money. pledis is such a shady, cheap company it’s almost laughable.
8. meanwhile, pledis seem to have no problem addressing issues that aren’t even issues (joshua sitting on a flag in a gose episode, svt having alpacas in one of their mvs, etc.) it seems pledis only care about the feelings of k-carats and it gets really frustrating, as i-carats+
do play a signifcant role in svts success.
9. as i alluded to earlier, pledis have been known for silencing seventeen on many occasions. the boys have been on an instagram ban for well over a year, meaning they have not been able to post all this time. recently, all of seungkwan’s posts were deleted and he was no longer+
following any of the members anymore and we have no idea what this means. is it pledis being controlling? does it mean we’re getting their instagrams back? i don’t know, but it’s just sad bc they all really seemed to enjoy having an instagram.
10. also, as svt have been using weverse to talk with fans, it was revealed on a live that they had to ask staff for a code to be able post on weverse. this could either mean a) pledis is so controlling that even after 5 yrs they don’t trust svt enough to post a selfie without+
having to ask for permission or b) maybe the members accidentally log out & have to ask for the info to get back in. either way, svt have little to no freedom when it comes to social media.
11. pledis make 80% of profit in korea, leaving svt with 20% (which is dumb bc svt are a self-producing group & all pledis does is bask in svt’s success but whatever) however, svt get more profit for events overseas, which would explain why pledis had them do the entire+
north american leg of their ‘ode to you’ tour in just two weeks. pledis can’t stand the fact that svt are profiting more overseas, which is why they were only there for such a short time
12. similar to staff scolding the members in front of fans, there have also been times where staff have spoken disrespectfully about the members when talking with fans. for example, pledis staff has briefly interviewed fans & would sometimes ask questions such as “which member+
do you like/who is your favorite?” then, if the fan would answer with a member that staff for some reason thought of as ‘less-than’ the others, theyd say things like “but why is HE your favorite? don’t you think ___ is more attractive/likeable?”i don’t think i even need to+
explain why this is so inappropriate and disrespectful.
13. not only does pledis speak poorly about some members, but they’ve even gone as far to leave them out of merch. just recently, the caratland merch was revealed and when fans saw the shirts, they were incredibly angry. pledis staff had forgotten to include dino on both shirts.+
like really? how do you manage to leave out a member? yes i suppose it could’ve been an accident, but even if it were, why wouldnt staff double/triple check everything first? it just seemed like a calculated move to me. since then, i believe pledis has fixed the merch to include+
dino, but that doesn’t necessarily mean their mistreatment towards dino is over for good.
now i want to take a moment to discuss some instances where svt alluded to their dissatisfaction towards their company. something that immediately comes to mind is howin an acceptance speech, hoshi mentioned/thanked cheol before HSS. that should say something. also, this isnt+
the members themselves, but many fans booed when hoshi mentioned HSS in an acceptance speech bc we all know that man is terrible. i've also heard that vernon once discouraged the idea of his younger sister joining the company
remember when cheol said his members are more important than the agency :)
im just gonna leave these here...
s coups entertainment over pledshit any day!
an evil company indeed. this video speaks for itself
major tw // eating disorder disordered eating eating habits

let’s not forget how they would starve hoshi predebut to make him lose weight to the point he would cry himself to sleep from hunger
the fact that even other idols are aware of how controlling pledis are of svt. jae of day6 talked about wanting to game w joshua but then said he wasn’t sure joshua would be ALLOWED to
here’s the video btw
so i was told that this chart is actually inaccurate so i apologize for that! i still believe svt don’t make enough of the profit but.. yeah i wanted to let you know! again i said i wasn’t 100% sure of everything here and this was brought to my attention https://twitter.com/tiniesoon/status/1295171185366446082?s=21 https://twitter.com/tiniesoon/status/1295171185366446082
**i just want to reiterate that im not claiming to know everything that goes on w pledis entertainment so it is possible some things here are false! im not trying to purposely mislead anyone so i apologize if there are more inaccuracies but nonetheless pledis is an awful company!
pledis is so gross i can’t https://twitter.com/babyhoom/status/1298709088902078465
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