Do the 83p ones peel and prep themselves as well, or...? https://twitter.com/zatzi/status/1287698616145018880

Absolute bargain if so, fair play.

"Potatoes cost less!"*

*If you assume that the labour of someone on low income is worth nothing. Which, if you're a Tory, you do.

Can't build a society based on providing easy access to cheap, low-quality food in order to create urban populations to support industry then complain when all your workers are unhealthy.

Although, honestly, all this stuff about processed food being nutritionally valueless is bollocks anyway.

See, the other nasty little trick is limiting access to certain foods for certain groups, then ensuring that the food they *can* access is coded as unhealthy and then redefining health measures to target those people forced to eat those foods.

So that everyone is forced to participate in class warfare under the guise of aspirational living, because the very foods they force workers to consume are the ones they tell you are basically poison in a can that no one should be eating.

And also, it turns out that processed sugar is the most unhealthy ingredient by some margin, but no one talks about it because sugar is very lucrative and we all have to pretend its eggs and cheese that are bad for us.

Love to live in a post-industrial society that enshrines disordered eating as part of its system of class control.

"Comfort food", "guilty pleasure", "treat", "fussy eater". We are taught from birth that eating food that gives us pleasure is a transgression. That - for our own well-being - we mustn't indulge in the basic animal process of consuming nutrition that is palatable.

Evolution has made it so that every animal that eats receives positive feedback from their brain for doing so. It's *nice* to eat things. Society has warped our thinking though, so that we associate tasty food with guilt, with self-loathing, with disgust.

Isn't that messed up? If you were in a relationship where someone did that (and there are people who are), you'd call it abuse. If you trained an animal to hate what it naturally loved, you'd call it abuse.

We'll get replies to this thread that will say stuff like, "yes, but people are also supposed to do exercise..." and bollocks about balanced lifestyle, and we're going to need you to examine why you feel the need to do that and whether you're participating in a harmful system.

There's nothing wrong with being fat. There's nothing *unhealthy* about being fat. As a human, your body is built to get fat. That's what a human body does, and some do it better than others but that isn't a sign of moral failure.

But, you know, please do chime in with objections based on things that we *very very obviously* already know.

[CN: weight loss, disordered eating, etc.] We speak from experience, btw. We went through a period in our life when we deliberately lost a significant amount of weight in a short time. It required us to basically reshape our entire psyche around weight loss.

[CN: weight loss, disordered eating, etc.] It became an obsession, a consuming hobby, a key part of our identity for some years: we were someone who used to be fat but, with the application of willpower, had now become thin. And everyone was so NICE all of a sudden.

[CN: weight loss, disordered eating, etc.] Except us. We were horrid and said and did things that we now regret. It created an even unhealthier relationship with our body than we had before and was an indicator of a more significant problem.

[CN: weight loss, disordered eating, etc.] *Weirdly* when we began taking medication for our depression and anxiety, we found that particular preoccupation with losing weight easing significantly. It's almost as if it was, in itself, a form of mental illness.

Anyway, that's enough personal stuff for today. Go and look at the robots.

One last thing: if you're someone who maintains a certain body-shape and you enjoy doing that, that's fine. But always keep in mind that it's something you choose to prioritise because it brings you pleasure.

(The act of doing it may not bring you pleasure, of course, but the results presumably do, even if it's indirect.)

And it may not feel like *work* to you precisely because you do enjoy it (or its results). Not everyone has the time, the money, the inclination, to hit the gym or whatever. It's a *hobby* that you have.

We're good at drawing because we like doing it, so we practice a lot. Drawing rarely feels like something we have to set time aside for; we do it idly whenever we have a pen in our hand!

If exercise is this for you, then that's great! But that doesn't make you better than someone who sews or knits or paints or collects stamps, nor does it imply that everyone can do it if they just try harder.

Most people improve at most things with dedicated practice, even if they don't enjoy them, but enjoying something is a *huge* advantage when it comes to mastering a skill.

We don't shame people for being bad at drawing. We don't shame them for having no stamp collection. Why do we shame people for not enjoying frequent physical exertion? (That's rhetorical, the answer is: all the stuff we've been talking about.)