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My big problem with the whole separate spaces for DID systems vs endogenic systems thing:
They don't really mean all DID/OSDD-1 systems. They mean traumagenic DID/OSDD-1 systems who have a very specific, purely medical idea of their multiplicity, who also want...
They don't really mean all DID/OSDD-1 systems. They mean traumagenic DID/OSDD-1 systems who have a very specific, purely medical idea of their multiplicity, who also want...
... To have nothing to do with the shared community or any of the ideas upheld by it whatsoever.
Which would be fine if that's what they were saying and calling it. Call it the Medical Multiplicity Only, Parts Not People, All Distress All the Time Community, or something.
Which would be fine if that's what they were saying and calling it. Call it the Medical Multiplicity Only, Parts Not People, All Distress All the Time Community, or something.
But they're trying to call it the traumagenic community, forgetting that much of that community doesn't have DID or OSDD-1, views their alters as people, acknowledges that it's not always distressing.
They're trying to frame it as a community separate from the shared spaces just like we endogenics and nondisordered systems have exclusive spaces, when it's not like our exclusive spaces at all because we don't exclude people who are also part of the shared space.
They're trying to frame it as a non exclusionist/isolationist thing when that's exactly what it is.
And you know, that's fine by me. Just don't lie or mislead people about your intents and desires, then get upset when people tell you that's exactly what you're doing.
And you know, that's fine by me. Just don't lie or mislead people about your intents and desires, then get upset when people tell you that's exactly what you're doing.
I don't mean being exclusive from endogenic systems without DID. I mean you're excluding DID systems who have members with differing views about their origins. You're excluding traumagenic systems who don't have DID or OSDD-1.
You're excluding people who don't fit your very narrow box of what you feel defines a "real" traumagenic + DID/OSDD-1 system, all the while saying that it's just that you want to only talk to like minded people...
If you genuinely believed that all traumagenic and endogenic and disordered and nondisordered systems were all really experiencing multiplicity, you wouldn't be using those terms the way you are, especially traumagenic being with Your Ideal Community, when really you mean...
A very narrow, specific subsection of the traumagenic community.
You're doing exactly what syscoursers have been doing for at least half a decade now: pushing us and our supporters out of our own rightful spaces and telling us we're not really real like you are.
You're doing exactly what syscoursers have been doing for at least half a decade now: pushing us and our supporters out of our own rightful spaces and telling us we're not really real like you are.
And to have the gall to do that in our own spaces, our own tag, that's what's upsetting people.
But you're doing it so nicely, so prettily, anyone who gets upset at the implications, at the things you're saying w/o saying them or even without meaning to, looks like the bad guys.
But you're doing it so nicely, so prettily, anyone who gets upset at the implications, at the things you're saying w/o saying them or even without meaning to, looks like the bad guys.
I don't have a neat ending for this thread. It's a disaster of a long messy first draft. I don't have the spoons or inclination to revise and edit it down atm. Maaaaybe tomorrow.
Or maybe I'll just say fuck it. Who knows. Not me.
Or maybe I'll just say fuck it. Who knows. Not me.
