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What are you saying Saar? Since time of siddhārtha Gautama himself the “split” (if you insist on that word) happened.
It is based on much deeper level of drashTā.
The split manifested on sociopolitical level too. Look at behaviour of Buddhists when Menander invaded India. https://twitter.com/sankrant/status/1287781870139092994
It is based on much deeper level of drashTā.
The split manifested on sociopolitical level too. Look at behaviour of Buddhists when Menander invaded India. https://twitter.com/sankrant/status/1287781870139092994
The urge to “overthrow restrictions of varNāshrama” using some adhyātmik experiences of siddhārtha gautama is very old. Many wanted to “use” this to stage a coup
Hence bauddha darshan was one of THE biggest challenges thrown to sanātana dharma on far deeper level of existence.
Hence bauddha darshan was one of THE biggest challenges thrown to sanātana dharma on far deeper level of existence.
It is very myopic to look at all dèvatās which are common & then claim ki see how much similarity
Even Sānkhya prescribes worship of all these dèvatās and many more w/o acknowledging existence of Īshwara
That is NOT the focal point of this “revolt” against vèda & varNāshrama
Even Sānkhya prescribes worship of all these dèvatās and many more w/o acknowledging existence of Īshwara
That is NOT the focal point of this “revolt” against vèda & varNāshrama
The split not just happened on level of adhyātma. As I said it manifested on social and political and economic level too
Because a section of public was chaffing to rebel against varNāshrama. Why rebel?
Because of the restrictions that the system puts on “YOLO” type people.
Because a section of public was chaffing to rebel against varNāshrama. Why rebel?
Because of the restrictions that the system puts on “YOLO” type people.
The tension between Kshatriya and brāhmaNa was always there. Bound to be there. Perhaps that is the whole point - that all powerful Kshatriyas remain subservient to beggar Brahmins.
This has manifested many times in past. Whole vashishTHa-vishvāmitra feud is precisely this.
This has manifested many times in past. Whole vashishTHa-vishvāmitra feud is precisely this.
Parshurāma comes in this line only. Rāma was coordinator and restored balance.
But after MBH Great War, and mass-deaths of Kshatriyas on kurukshètra, this balance was almost skewed.
Rise of vaishya+shudra kings (mahā-padmananda) is another defining point who were chaffing.
But after MBH Great War, and mass-deaths of Kshatriyas on kurukshètra, this balance was almost skewed.
Rise of vaishya+shudra kings (mahā-padmananda) is another defining point who were chaffing.
It is this class which joined the Buddhist bandwagon en masse when Ashoka embraced bauddha-darshan as his “adhyātmik mārga”. These & YOLO type freeloaders too
It became a difficult problem because it attacked vaidika system not from outside, but from inside. At level of drashTā
It became a difficult problem because it attacked vaidika system not from outside, but from inside. At level of drashTā
It is a very curious case of an adhyātmik experience being used to stage a sociopolitical and economic coup in India. Very unique. And very much dhārmik or Hindu.
The only problem which manifested was, the teachings of Buddha could not produce more Buddhas.
The only problem which manifested was, the teachings of Buddha could not produce more Buddhas.
This has very briefly (and a bit shallowly) addressed by Hermann Hesse in Siddhartha.
The path taught by Buddha cannot grant that final liberation. Because even Shruti declares it is very fickle and one cannot hope to make a syllabus and a SOP to attain moksha (what Buddha did)
The path taught by Buddha cannot grant that final liberation. Because even Shruti declares it is very fickle and one cannot hope to make a syllabus and a SOP to attain moksha (what Buddha did)
Just as by giving a textbook and printed instruction manual does not make role of guru redundant, same this happened here.
Mind you, People who joined Buddhist bandwagon were not shallow people. They understood the meaning and importance of adhyātma.
They just wanted to make this process free of some “shrotrīya and brahmanishTHa guru” who will address their needs as per their guNa-karma composition
They just wanted to make this process free of some “shrotrīya and brahmanishTHa guru” who will address their needs as per their guNa-karma composition
In long run we know, it does not work that way. While vashishTHa-vishwāmitra feud ended in vishwāmitra becoming a great brahmarShi, similar things did not happen here.
Because we CANNOT wish away a guru and replace him with SOP.
Took centuries to understand this.
Because we CANNOT wish away a guru and replace him with SOP.
Took centuries to understand this.
So in the end know that
1. Dèvatā (including big 3 or 5) are not main focus of sanātana dharma.
2. Chètana DrashTā (ātman/purush/Indra) and his moksha/kaivalya is the main focus. Because that chètanā is raison d’être
3. Guru, varNāshrama, Īshwara are there to help achieve 2
1. Dèvatā (including big 3 or 5) are not main focus of sanātana dharma.
2. Chètana DrashTā (ātman/purush/Indra) and his moksha/kaivalya is the main focus. Because that chètanā is raison d’être
3. Guru, varNāshrama, Īshwara are there to help achieve 2
4. Guru and varNāshrama (based on past+present karma) are absolutely essential. Contrary to popular belief, even Īshwara can be optional (not recommended but each to his/her own prakruti)
5. When you realise that drashTā is sitting behind ALL the layers of prakruti, you are free
5. When you realise that drashTā is sitting behind ALL the layers of prakruti, you are free
ॐ कृष्णार्पणमस्तु!!!
PS - no matter how wildly one differs with fellow dhārmik on ideological and adhyātmik or social issues, DO NOT betray them by colluding with mlechha.
Some Buddhists in their blind hatred of varNāshrama dharma, did that too. They were first to die under mlechha or yavana yoke.
Some Buddhists in their blind hatred of varNāshrama dharma, did that too. They were first to die under mlechha or yavana yoke.
It is very sad (for me personally) to see great human beings (nāgārjuna for example) colluding/giving upadèsha etc to mlechha invaders due an “adhyātmik disagreement”.
Ideas are powerful. Do not let them be too powerful.
Experience and Anubhuti trumps ideas.
श्रीराम...
Ideas are powerful. Do not let them be too powerful.
Experience and Anubhuti trumps ideas.
श्रीराम...
Birth based caste system = misnomer
Birth based jāti = self evident in very meaning of the word “jāti”. It cannot be anything else
Birth based varNa = depends. If you can do strong tapas or have guru Krupā, varNa can change and no longer be birth-based. karma is a factor here.
Birth based jāti = self evident in very meaning of the word “jāti”. It cannot be anything else
Birth based varNa = depends. If you can do strong tapas or have guru Krupā, varNa can change and no longer be birth-based. karma is a factor here.
