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Kathryn Edwards & @DavidSm54263703 confirm that women do disproportionate amounts of labor of reviewing, ed board work, @HFranceWebsite volunteering. Our male colleagues need to say Yes when asked to do things, women need to say No. https://twitter.com/Laprofmme/status/1286046862437482500
@Briony_Neilson suggests that approaching editing not as gatekeeping but as cultivation of scholarly community. Is there a feminine ethos of editing that we all benefit from?
@DavidSm54263703, Julia Osman & Kathryn Edwards all respond by reminding us that editing work is under-recognized & under-valued by institutions & profession at large. So male scholars turn down requests to review/serve bc they wouldn't be rewarded for it
Mita Chaudhury asks excellent question about how books get selected for @HFranceWebsite Salons, who is choosing them & choosing reviewers. Is there a gender imbalance in whose books are subject of Salons? I didn't really follow the answer, but would love to see some numbers!
Choudhury—sorry!
@BryanBanksPhD raises question of how different kinds of publications are recognized for tenure & promotion, mismatch between diversification of scholarly forms & institutional systems
(Ndlr: Love that Bryan is painting his daughter's bedroom during this session! The upside of virtual conferences.)
He suggests people involved in DH & other forms can advocate for themselves. @AgeofRevs has blurbs that can be cited! Words can be counted! Cultivate allies & champions—a key role for sympathetic "old farts" to help redefine as scholarship, rather than service.
Edwards also reminds us that @AHAhistorians has standards on DH work that departments can cite in presenting dossiers to college/university committees
Carol Harrison explains old guerilla manipulation of library usage stats--take down issues of FHS & scatter around so they had to be reshelved and thus got counted as "used"
Comes back to question of costs, access, and relatively good shape of journal publishing (despite labor issues) compared to past. This, plus speed, makes journals an important site for work of anti-racism & decolonization
K Edwards comes back to institutional reward systems: virtues of journals in flexibility, responsiveness, etc. sometimes in tension w/ tenure standards that require monographs.
In r.e. article vs. book, it's worth noting that some depts have tried to move away from this. @UMich History, @UI_History & probably others have developed more flexible T&P standards.
@Briony_Neilson suggests "serial" books as alternative to UP monograph—a series of articles that add up to a book. Julia Osman builds on that, invokes Darnton's layers to point to possibilities of digital book publication.
K Edwards harkens back to AHA experiment with ebooks, maybe ahead of its time? What happened to those books? How did T&P committees deal with them? ( @GregBrownUNLV might have insights here)
Mita Choudhury is back w/ big Qs about how journals perpetuate hierarchies, gatekeep, address inequities. Rejects (
) idea that there's any part of our field that isn't political.
) idea that there's any part of our field that isn't political.
Edwards (rightly) acknowledges role of personal in editing. Getting people to agree to review is hardest part of editing, so leans on people she knows, trusts, can subtly pressure to say Yes. Ironically easier to avoid "old boys' network" in areas further from her expertise.
@DavidSm54263703 suggests reviewing presses to show editors we're watching!
@clpichichero on importance of educating editors about not just implicit biases (IB training doesn't really work), but explicit biases. Ex. don't allow institutional affiliation/elitism to cloud critical judgement, fight disciplinary/methodological biases …
i.e. capitalism > Afrofeminism, recognize archival biases.
Plus need to listen to excluded, those who've given up on established venues bc of experiences of marginalization & discriminatory treatment. But without increasing cultural taxation or subjecting to further insults!
Plus need to listen to excluded, those who've given up on established venues bc of experiences of marginalization & discriminatory treatment. But without increasing cultural taxation or subjecting to further insults!
@DrSepinwall explains how upset she was by the H-France incident last month, reminds us that anti-racism is long, hard work.
Gives some background on her own experience w/ French studies vs Haitian studies
Julia Osman calls attention to hierarchies of legitimacy--whose approval, praise, pages matter & confers legitimacy? How to work to overturn traditional hierarchies, power of the grey haired, bow-tied, & bespectacled, prestige of elite institutions or publishing venues
@Briony_Neilson
on awkward position of Australian academy in terms of legitimacy: consciousness of both distance from & linkages to rest of world. Virtual as way to shorten distance, open accessibility of conferences that are/give rise to publications
on awkward position of Australian academy in terms of legitimacy: consciousness of both distance from & linkages to rest of world. Virtual as way to shorten distance, open accessibility of conferences that are/give rise to publications
@DavidSm54263703 shouts out increasing collaboration of @thesfhs @WestFrenchHist @frenchcolonial, @HFranceWebsite, suggests need to reach out further internationally.
(Ndlr: this could go even further: can we build bridges to non-Anglophone & non-French studies grps?)
(Ndlr: this could go even further: can we build bridges to non-Anglophone & non-French studies grps?)
