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What's the best backcourt in NBA history?
I just read a post saying it was Curry and Klay. Most people (inc. me) think they're the best *shooting* backcourt ever. But best overall?
I thought that might be true, but I wasn't sure.
So I did some research for this thread.
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I just read a post saying it was Curry and Klay. Most people (inc. me) think they're the best *shooting* backcourt ever. But best overall?
I thought that might be true, but I wasn't sure.
So I did some research for this thread.
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Thread on best backcourts in NBA history.
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Note:
Stats are only from when the two guards ACTUALLY PLAYED TOGETHER.
Using CAREER stats skews data: Kobe-Payton & Kobe-Nash have huge totals--but not when playing together.
5 years as minimum time together.
But last tweet in thread looks at Harden-Westbrook (4 yrs).
Stats are only from when the two guards ACTUALLY PLAYED TOGETHER.
Using CAREER stats skews data: Kobe-Payton & Kobe-Nash have huge totals--but not when playing together.
5 years as minimum time together.
But last tweet in thread looks at Harden-Westbrook (4 yrs).
BOTH guards had to be good.
However, I did look at Jordan with others guards:
Kerr, Armstrong, Harper didn't play 5 yrs w/ MJ.
Paxon did, but averaged 22 MP and 7 pts: No thanks.
I considered Kobe and Fisher. But Derek was below average in most every adv stat every year.
However, I did look at Jordan with others guards:
Kerr, Armstrong, Harper didn't play 5 yrs w/ MJ.
Paxon did, but averaged 22 MP and 7 pts: No thanks.
I considered Kobe and Fisher. But Derek was below average in most every adv stat every year.
Here's who I chose (chronological order):
Cousy, Sharman
West, Goodrich
Frazier, Monroe
Magic, Scott
Isiah, Dumars
Drexler, Porter
Kevin Johnson, Hornacek
Stockton, Hornacek
Parker, Ginobili
Curry, Klay
(After I finished, I remembered Lillard-McCollum & DeRozan-Lowry. Oh well.)
Cousy, Sharman
West, Goodrich
Frazier, Monroe
Magic, Scott
Isiah, Dumars
Drexler, Porter
Kevin Johnson, Hornacek
Stockton, Hornacek
Parker, Ginobili
Curry, Klay
(After I finished, I remembered Lillard-McCollum & DeRozan-Lowry. Oh well.)
Tony and Manu played the most MP and most years together:
Win Shares:
213.0 Parker + Ginobili
178.2 Drexler + Porter
162.4 Magic + Scott
156.5 Cousy + Sharman
138.9 Curry + Klay
134.2 Stockton + Hornacek
124.3 West + Goodrich
111.4 Isiah + Dumars
93.7 Frazier + Monroe
91.4 KJ + Hornacek
Spurs did a lot of winning.
213.0 Parker + Ginobili
178.2 Drexler + Porter
162.4 Magic + Scott
156.5 Cousy + Sharman
138.9 Curry + Klay
134.2 Stockton + Hornacek
124.3 West + Goodrich
111.4 Isiah + Dumars
93.7 Frazier + Monroe
91.4 KJ + Hornacek
Spurs did a lot of winning.
WS/48
.201 Stockton + Hornacek
.186 Magic + Scott
.178 West + Goodrich
.173 KJ + Hornacek
.173 Drexler + Porter
.171 Curry + Klay
.165 Parker + Ginobili
.157 Cousy + Sharman
.145 Frazier + Monroe
.112 Isiah + Dumars
Interesting results!
Utah was .724 with JS & JH: 59 W/82 pace
.201 Stockton + Hornacek
.186 Magic + Scott
.178 West + Goodrich
.173 KJ + Hornacek
.173 Drexler + Porter
.171 Curry + Klay
.165 Parker + Ginobili
.157 Cousy + Sharman
.145 Frazier + Monroe
.112 Isiah + Dumars
Interesting results!
Utah was .724 with JS & JH: 59 W/82 pace
PER (weighted by MP):
20.8 Curry + Klay
20.6 Magic + Scott
20.5 Stockton + Hornacek
20.2 West + Goodrich
19.9 Drexler + Porter
19.6 KJ + Hornacek
19.4 Parker + Ginobili
19.2 Cousy + Sharman
18.2 Frazier + Monroe
16.6 Isiah + Dumars
Steph & Klay are # 1: But it's close.
20.8 Curry + Klay
20.6 Magic + Scott
20.5 Stockton + Hornacek
20.2 West + Goodrich
19.9 Drexler + Porter
19.6 KJ + Hornacek
19.4 Parker + Ginobili
19.2 Cousy + Sharman
18.2 Frazier + Monroe
16.6 Isiah + Dumars
Steph & Klay are # 1: But it's close.
VORP
85.3 Drexler + Porter
77.3 Parker + Ginobili
70.7 Magic + Scott
60.5 Stockton + Hornacek
60.2 Curry + Klay
44.8 Isiah + Dumars
38.1 KJ + Hornacek
22.2 Frazier + Monroe (4 yrs only)
NA West + Goodrich
NA Cousy + Sharman
Drexler & Porter underrated, IMO.
85.3 Drexler + Porter
77.3 Parker + Ginobili
70.7 Magic + Scott
60.5 Stockton + Hornacek
60.2 Curry + Klay
44.8 Isiah + Dumars
38.1 KJ + Hornacek
22.2 Frazier + Monroe (4 yrs only)
NA West + Goodrich
NA Cousy + Sharman
Drexler & Porter underrated, IMO.
VORP/3000 MP
5.7 Stockton + Hornacek
5.2 Drexler + Porter
5.1 Magic + Scott
4.6 Curry + Klay
4.5 KJ + Hornacek
3.7 Parker + Ginobili
3.1 Frazier + Monroe
2.8 Isiah + Dumars
NA West + Goodrich
NA Cousy + Sharman
Two underrated duos on top.
5.7 Stockton + Hornacek
5.2 Drexler + Porter
5.1 Magic + Scott
4.6 Curry + Klay
4.5 KJ + Hornacek
3.7 Parker + Ginobili
3.1 Frazier + Monroe
2.8 Isiah + Dumars
NA West + Goodrich
NA Cousy + Sharman
Two underrated duos on top.
Points:
32281 Parker + Ginobili
27365 Drexler + Porter
25986 Cousy + Sharman
25642 Curry + Klay
24140 Isiah + Dumars
22525 Magic + Scott
21714 West + Goodrich
16363 Frazier + Monroe
13995 Stockton + Hornacek
12909 KJ + Hornacek
32281 Parker + Ginobili
27365 Drexler + Porter
25986 Cousy + Sharman
25642 Curry + Klay
24140 Isiah + Dumars
22525 Magic + Scott
21714 West + Goodrich
16363 Frazier + Monroe
13995 Stockton + Hornacek
12909 KJ + Hornacek
Points/36 MP
47.4 Curry + Klay
46.7 West + Goodrich
39.8 Drexler + Porter
39.1 Cousy + Sharman
38.7 Magic + Scott
37.9 Frazier + Monroe
37.6 Parker + Ginobili
36.7 KJ + Hornacek
36.3 Isiah + Dumars
31.4 Stockton + Hornacek
2 duos are outliers on top on this one.
47.4 Curry + Klay
46.7 West + Goodrich
39.8 Drexler + Porter
39.1 Cousy + Sharman
38.7 Magic + Scott
37.9 Frazier + Monroe
37.6 Parker + Ginobili
36.7 KJ + Hornacek
36.3 Isiah + Dumars
31.4 Stockton + Hornacek
2 duos are outliers on top on this one.
Assists:
10496 Parker + Ginobili
9658 Drexler + Porter
9352 Magic + Scott
9099 Isiah + Dumars
7567 Cousy + Sharman
7333 Stockton + Hornacek
5860 KJ + Hornacek
5474 West + Goodrich
5133 Curry + Klay
4156 Frazier + Monroe
10496 Parker + Ginobili
9658 Drexler + Porter
9352 Magic + Scott
9099 Isiah + Dumars
7567 Cousy + Sharman
7333 Stockton + Hornacek
5860 KJ + Hornacek
5474 West + Goodrich
5133 Curry + Klay
4156 Frazier + Monroe
AST/36 MP
16.7 KJ + Hornacek
16.5 Stockton + Hornacek
16.0 Magic + Scott
14.0 Drexler + Porter
13.7 Isiah + Dumars
12.2 Parker + Ginobili
11.8 West + Goodrich
11.4 Cousy + Sharman
9.6 Frazier + Monroe
9.5 Curry + Klay
KJ & Stockton great w/ AST. But Hornacek began as PG.
16.7 KJ + Hornacek
16.5 Stockton + Hornacek
16.0 Magic + Scott
14.0 Drexler + Porter
13.7 Isiah + Dumars
12.2 Parker + Ginobili
11.8 West + Goodrich
11.4 Cousy + Sharman
9.6 Frazier + Monroe
9.5 Curry + Klay
KJ & Stockton great w/ AST. But Hornacek began as PG.
Ranked by average rank of:
WS/48, PER, & VORP/3000:
1.7 Stockton + Hornacek
2.3 Magic + Scott
3.5 West + Goodrich
3.7 Curry + Klay
4.0 Drexler + Porter
5.0 KJ + Hornacek
6.7 Parker + Ginobili
8.0 Cousy + Sharman
8.3 Frazier + Monroe
9.3 Isiah + Dumars
Stockton > Isiah, as usual
WS/48, PER, & VORP/3000:
1.7 Stockton + Hornacek
2.3 Magic + Scott
3.5 West + Goodrich
3.7 Curry + Klay
4.0 Drexler + Porter
5.0 KJ + Hornacek
6.7 Parker + Ginobili
8.0 Cousy + Sharman
8.3 Frazier + Monroe
9.3 Isiah + Dumars
Stockton > Isiah, as usual
So who is the best backcourt?
If you like scoring:
Klay-Curry
West-Goodrich
(and Harden-Westbrook)
If you like assists,
KJ-Hornacek
Stockton-Hornacek
Magic-Scott
Longevity and total WS:
Parker-Ginobili
Advanced proficiency stats:
Stockton-Hornacek
Magic-Scott
If you like scoring:
Klay-Curry
West-Goodrich
(and Harden-Westbrook)
If you like assists,
KJ-Hornacek
Stockton-Hornacek
Magic-Scott
Longevity and total WS:
Parker-Ginobili
Advanced proficiency stats:
Stockton-Hornacek
Magic-Scott
Harden and Westbrook:
P/36: 44.1 (would rank 3rd)
A/36: 12.2 (7th)
WS/48: .160 (8th)
PER: 20.9 (1st)
VORP: 4.1 (6th)
# 1 in PER.
Data for all 11 backcourts:
P/36: 44.1 (would rank 3rd)
A/36: 12.2 (7th)
WS/48: .160 (8th)
PER: 20.9 (1st)
VORP: 4.1 (6th)
# 1 in PER.
Data for all 11 backcourts:
