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January 24, 2017
Primary Sub Source Interview in Washington Field Office Intetview Room. Primary Sub Source was accompanied by his attorney.
January 24, 2017
Primary Sub Source Interview in Washington Field Office Intetview Room. Primary Sub Source was accompanied by his attorney.
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The Primary Sub Source began his hand at independent consulting. Some of the work moved into due diligence and business intelligence.
The Primary Sub Source began his hand at independent consulting. Some of the work moved into due diligence and business intelligence.
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The PSS met Steele in the mid-to-late [REDACTED].
![3\\The PSS met Steele in the mid-to-late [REDACTED].](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJkV71WAAENn5Y.jpg "3\\The PSS met Steele in the mid-to-late [REDACTED].")
The PSS met Steele in the mid-to-late [REDACTED].
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PSS has never mentioned Steele or Orbis to family or friends. The FBI are the first people he's told. Steele told PSS that it is a security risk to take notes. For election related reporting, PSS had three trips [REDACTED] and one additional United Kingdom trip.
![4\\PSS has never mentioned Steele or Orbis to family or friends. The FBI are the first people he's told. Steele told PSS that it is a security risk to take notes. For election related reporting, PSS had three trips [REDACTED] and one additional United Kingdom trip.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJmkw3WsAAGEqy.jpg "4\\PSS has never mentioned Steele or Orbis to family or friends. The FBI are the first people he's told. Steele told PSS that it is a security risk to take notes. For election related reporting, PSS had three trips [REDACTED] and one additional United Kingdom trip.")
PSS has never mentioned Steele or Orbis to family or friends. The FBI are the first people he's told. Steele told PSS that it is a security risk to take notes. For election related reporting, PSS had three trips [REDACTED] and one additional United Kingdom trip.
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To PSS's "knowledge" he has not interacted with Russian Intelligence.
In March 2016, Steele tasked PSS with looking into any corrupt information about Manafort including Ukraine, Yanukovych, United States, etc.
PSS didn't know Manafort and felt uncomfortable on [REDACTED].
![5\\To PSS's "knowledge" he has not interacted with Russian Intelligence.In March 2016, Steele tasked PSS with looking into any corrupt information about Manafort including Ukraine, Yanukovych, United States, etc. PSS didn't know Manafort and felt uncomfortable on [REDACTED].](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJnkVWWoAY3bR6.jpg "5\\To PSS's \"knowledge\" he has not interacted with Russian Intelligence.In March 2016, Steele tasked PSS with looking into any corrupt information about Manafort including Ukraine, Yanukovych, United States, etc. PSS didn't know Manafort and felt uncomfortable on [REDACTED].")
To PSS's "knowledge" he has not interacted with Russian Intelligence.
In March 2016, Steele tasked PSS with looking into any corrupt information about Manafort including Ukraine, Yanukovych, United States, etc.
PSS didn't know Manafort and felt uncomfortable on [REDACTED].
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Steele tasked PSS to look for compromising material on Donald Trump. The PSS could not remember if Steele tasked PSS just for compromising dirt on Trump or Trump and Clinton. PSS lawyer says PSS told him previously it was both Trump and Clinton.
Steele tasked PSS to look for compromising material on Donald Trump. The PSS could not remember if Steele tasked PSS just for compromising dirt on Trump or Trump and Clinton. PSS lawyer says PSS told him previously it was both Trump and Clinton.
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Source 2 told PSS that there was compromising material on Trump.
Source 2 told PSS that there was compromising material on Trump.
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PSS and Source 3 have been friends since the equivalent of the eighth grade. Her [REDACTED] would help PSS out financially and he wouldn't have to repay her [REDACTED]. PSS has recently helped out Source 3 financially.
![8\\PSS and Source 3 have been friends since the equivalent of the eighth grade. Her [REDACTED] would help PSS out financially and he wouldn't have to repay her [REDACTED]. PSS has recently helped out Source 3 financially.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJqGhAXsAA0NrD.jpg "8\\PSS and Source 3 have been friends since the equivalent of the eighth grade. Her [REDACTED] would help PSS out financially and he wouldn't have to repay her [REDACTED]. PSS has recently helped out Source 3 financially.")
PSS and Source 3 have been friends since the equivalent of the eighth grade. Her [REDACTED] would help PSS out financially and he wouldn't have to repay her [REDACTED]. PSS has recently helped out Source 3 financially.
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Source 2 always has money on the brain and is always looking for ways to monetize his relationship with PSS.
Source 2 always has money on the brain and is always looking for ways to monetize his relationship with PSS.
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Source 3 was one of the key sources for the "Trump dossier." She is directly quoted at points; PSS is not sure if she realized quotes came from her.
Source 4 specializes in regional politics US Russia relations. Gossips "I heard such and such from someone in the [Kremlin]"
![10\\Source 3 was one of the key sources for the "Trump dossier." She is directly quoted at points; PSS is not sure if she realized quotes came from her. Source 4 specializes in regional politics US Russia relations. Gossips "I heard such and such from someone in the [Kremlin]"](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJr5OZWkAM63z1.jpg "10\\Source 3 was one of the key sources for the \"Trump dossier.\" She is directly quoted at points; PSS is not sure if she realized quotes came from her. Source 4 specializes in regional politics US Russia relations. Gossips \"I heard such and such from someone in the [Kremlin]\"")
Source 3 was one of the key sources for the "Trump dossier." She is directly quoted at points; PSS is not sure if she realized quotes came from her.
Source 4 specializes in regional politics US Russia relations. Gossips "I heard such and such from someone in the [Kremlin]"
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PSS and Source 4 drink heavily together.
Source 1 comes from [REDACTED], where he served in city and regional government positions. Source 1 has been involved in politics since a young age. Source 1 and PSS have talked politics since PSS days as a [REDACTED].
![11\\PSS and Source 4 drink heavily together.Source 1 comes from [REDACTED], where he served in city and regional government positions. Source 1 has been involved in politics since a young age. Source 1 and PSS have talked politics since PSS days as a [REDACTED].](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJtS0qWAAE6fW1.jpg "11\\PSS and Source 4 drink heavily together.Source 1 comes from [REDACTED], where he served in city and regional government positions. Source 1 has been involved in politics since a young age. Source 1 and PSS have talked politics since PSS days as a [REDACTED].")
PSS and Source 4 drink heavily together.
Source 1 comes from [REDACTED], where he served in city and regional government positions. Source 1 has been involved in politics since a young age. Source 1 and PSS have talked politics since PSS days as a [REDACTED].
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Source 1 has a a good relationship with Russian Intelligence Officer (RIO). And Source 1 hears many things from RIO about domestic politics. Source 1 had connections to regional FSB.
Source 1 has a a good relationship with Russian Intelligence Officer (RIO). And Source 1 hears many things from RIO about domestic politics. Source 1 had connections to regional FSB.
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PSS has never met RIO in person or attended an RIO event or even been in the same room with RIO.
PSS and Source 5 have many mutual friends. Source 5 has connections to Russian intelligence. Source 5 and her boyfriend have had problems because Page Sechin came from Source 5
PSS has never met RIO in person or attended an RIO event or even been in the same room with RIO.
PSS and Source 5 have many mutual friends. Source 5 has connections to Russian intelligence. Source 5 and her boyfriend have had problems because Page Sechin came from Source 5
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PSS reached out to USPER a journalist for [REDACTED/ABC??] in late June or July. USPER got him in touch with one of his ABC?? colleagues. USPER gave PSS Source 6's contact info. On Phone Source 6 didn't identify himself. Were to meet late July. Never happened. @SergeiMillian
![14\\PSS reached out to USPER a journalist for [REDACTED/ABC??] in late June or July. USPER got him in touch with one of his ABC?? colleagues. USPER gave PSS Source 6's contact info. On Phone Source 6 didn't identify himself. Were to meet late July. Never happened. @SergeiMillian](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJxgNnWkAQFZwZ.jpg "14\\PSS reached out to USPER a journalist for [REDACTED/ABC??] in late June or July. USPER got him in touch with one of his ABC?? colleagues. USPER gave PSS Source 6's contact info. On Phone Source 6 didn't identify himself. Were to meet late July. Never happened. @SergeiMillian")
PSS reached out to USPER a journalist for [REDACTED/ABC??] in late June or July. USPER got him in touch with one of his ABC?? colleagues. USPER gave PSS Source 6's contact info. On Phone Source 6 didn't identify himself. Were to meet late July. Never happened. @SergeiMillian
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Sourcing for report 94 about Sechin Page meeting was solely from Source 5. Source 5 confirmed to PSS via text in September that the July Sechin Page meeting took place.
Sourcing for report 94 about Sechin Page meeting was solely from Source 5. Source 5 confirmed to PSS via text in September that the July Sechin Page meeting took place.
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PSS has received two media inquiries. One from a specialized [REDACTED] journal. The other is redacted.
January 25 interview. Steele has reached out to PSS. PSS will tell Steele he has been meeting with his [REDACTED].
![16\\PSS has received two media inquiries. One from a specialized [REDACTED] journal. The other is redacted. January 25 interview. Steele has reached out to PSS. PSS will tell Steele he has been meeting with his [REDACTED].](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJzNIkXoAguLht.jpg "16\\PSS has received two media inquiries. One from a specialized [REDACTED] journal. The other is redacted. January 25 interview. Steele has reached out to PSS. PSS will tell Steele he has been meeting with his [REDACTED].")
PSS has received two media inquiries. One from a specialized [REDACTED] journal. The other is redacted.
January 25 interview. Steele has reached out to PSS. PSS will tell Steele he has been meeting with his [REDACTED].
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[REDACTED] is the one who told PSS that the Russian government was sitting on kompromat as stated in paragraph 4. Maybe Source 3 spoke about it.
![17\\[REDACTED] is the one who told PSS that the Russian government was sitting on kompromat as stated in paragraph 4. Maybe Source 3 spoke about it.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJ11D3XkAEaHsj.jpg "17\\[REDACTED] is the one who told PSS that the Russian government was sitting on kompromat as stated in paragraph 4. Maybe Source 3 spoke about it.")
[REDACTED] is the one who told PSS that the Russian government was sitting on kompromat as stated in paragraph 4. Maybe Source 3 spoke about it.
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PSS said the Carter Page info came from Source 5 and the Cohen/Prague stuff came from Source 3.
PSS said the Carter Page info came from Source 5 and the Cohen/Prague stuff came from Source 3.
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PSS received a call from who he believed was Source 6 and they spoke for about ten minutes. They had agreed to meet in [REDACTED] US City. Source 6 was a no show. US Person 2 said Source 6 asked "who the hell is PSS?". And Source 6 would be unavailable.
![19\\PSS received a call from who he believed was Source 6 and they spoke for about ten minutes. They had agreed to meet in [REDACTED] US City. Source 6 was a no show. US Person 2 said Source 6 asked "who the hell is PSS?". And Source 6 would be unavailable.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJ5OkTWAAEpiv3.jpg "19\\PSS received a call from who he believed was Source 6 and they spoke for about ten minutes. They had agreed to meet in [REDACTED] US City. Source 6 was a no show. US Person 2 said Source 6 asked \"who the hell is PSS?\". And Source 6 would be unavailable.")
PSS received a call from who he believed was Source 6 and they spoke for about ten minutes. They had agreed to meet in [REDACTED] US City. Source 6 was a no show. US Person 2 said Source 6 asked "who the hell is PSS?". And Source 6 would be unavailable.
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In the 10-15 minute conversation PSS had with who he believed to be Source 6. Source 6 told PSS that there was an "exchange of information" between Trump and the Kremlin and that there was nothing bad about it. Could be good for Russia and bad for Trump. Kremlin might help.
In the 10-15 minute conversation PSS had with who he believed to be Source 6. Source 6 told PSS that there was an "exchange of information" between Trump and the Kremlin and that there was nothing bad about it. Could be good for Russia and bad for Trump. Kremlin might help.
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PSS reported to Steele that Trump Ritz Carlton stuff was "rumor and speculation" and he was unable to confirm the story.
Source 1 identified Source B as Russian Intelligence Officer who said they have "embarrassing stuff sexual/pornographic material" on "including Trump"
PSS reported to Steele that Trump Ritz Carlton stuff was "rumor and speculation" and he was unable to confirm the story.
Source 1 identified Source B as Russian Intelligence Officer who said they have "embarrassing stuff sexual/pornographic material" on "including Trump"
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PSS said the ability to blackmail Trump was "logical conclusion" rather than reporting. The conversation with Source 1 took place in June 2016. PSS doesn't know where "Department K of the FSB" is from. PSD doesn't know where Steele came up with years of Kompromat came from.
PSS said the ability to blackmail Trump was "logical conclusion" rather than reporting. The conversation with Source 1 took place in June 2016. PSS doesn't know where "Department K of the FSB" is from. PSD doesn't know where Steele came up with years of Kompromat came from.
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January 26, 2017 PSS Interview.
A Steele associate had contacted PSS and they were worried about PSS because PSS "had been laying too low" and they hadn't been in contact for ten days and that Steele was still "lying low". PSS was concerned payments could "looked strange".
January 26, 2017 PSS Interview.
A Steele associate had contacted PSS and they were worried about PSS because PSS "had been laying too low" and they hadn't been in contact for ten days and that Steele was still "lying low". PSS was concerned payments could "looked strange".
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PSS said unless his name becomes public, he is if fine when it comes to his source network. He doesn't feel he can travel [REDACTED], he would be in danger. PSS said he deleted election reporting stuff "months ago" and has a different phone.
![24\\PSS said unless his name becomes public, he is if fine when it comes to his source network. He doesn't feel he can travel [REDACTED], he would be in danger. PSS said he deleted election reporting stuff "months ago" and has a different phone.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdKUlbgWsAARoSu.jpg "24\\PSS said unless his name becomes public, he is if fine when it comes to his source network. He doesn't feel he can travel [REDACTED], he would be in danger. PSS said he deleted election reporting stuff \"months ago\" and has a different phone.")
PSS said unless his name becomes public, he is if fine when it comes to his source network. He doesn't feel he can travel [REDACTED], he would be in danger. PSS said he deleted election reporting stuff "months ago" and has a different phone.
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Primary Sub Source has a friend who was forced to do some cyber related work for the FSB after being caught "facilitating payment for a pornographic website". PSS said on the first day's interview he had no Russian Intelligence contacts.
Primary Sub Source has a friend who was forced to do some cyber related work for the FSB after being caught "facilitating payment for a pornographic website". PSS said on the first day's interview he had no Russian Intelligence contacts.
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Steele would debrief PSS in Orbis's offices and Steel would take hand written notes. Steele would ask "Are you sure..."
Steele would debrief PSS in Orbis's offices and Steel would take hand written notes. Steele would ask "Are you sure..."
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As for Report 112 Govorun and Alfa Bank has been a topic of PSS has been working on for ten years.
As for Report 112 Govorun and Alfa Bank has been a topic of PSS has been working on for ten years.
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PSS said his Source 5 has her own "kurator" (handler) and "knows the (intelligence) lingo." The only person PSS for sure knows is connected to Russian Intelligence is his friend.
PSS said his Source 5 has her own "kurator" (handler) and "knows the (intelligence) lingo." The only person PSS for sure knows is connected to Russian Intelligence is his friend.
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PSS has met Yuriy Ushakov a few times and remarked Ushakov is known to operate "independent" of Lavrov. PSS has met Sergey Kislyak at a couple of events.
PSS has met Yuriy Ushakov a few times and remarked Ushakov is known to operate "independent" of Lavrov. PSS has met Sergey Kislyak at a couple of events.
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The Primary Sub Source's interview took place in Washington DC over three days, January 24, 25 and 26. These notes were completed on February 9, 2016- 14 days later.
The Primary Sub Source's interview took place in Washington DC over three days, January 24, 25 and 26. These notes were completed on February 9, 2016- 14 days later.
