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“Feminism that doesn’t include transwomen isn’t feminism”
- is a statement I’ve seen from several people, including Aimee Challenor.
It’s one of the opinions from extreme Trans Rights Activists (TRA) that makes least logical sense to me and I’d like to discuss why 1/11
- is a statement I’ve seen from several people, including Aimee Challenor.
It’s one of the opinions from extreme Trans Rights Activists (TRA) that makes least logical sense to me and I’d like to discuss why 1/11
I grew up more detached from ‘society’ than many - in a middle class bubble in a nice town, but damaged and fearful because of abuse and bullying. I really knew very little of the world and had become very introverted ... until i went to Uni at 18.
Uni was the first ‘shock’ 2/11
Uni was the first ‘shock’ 2/11
There I met my first Lesbians, bisexuals, black and Asian people, other religions and cultures. My previous white and straight experience had a line drawn under it and became the past.
I also quickly realised what a blank canvas I was compared to others. 3/11
I also quickly realised what a blank canvas I was compared to others. 3/11
I had little sense of self; others had a strong, vibrant personalities. I was also educated a bit about feminism by two fab lesbians.
I quickly realised your sense of self depends on upbringing and how society & it’s peoples treat you. You are the sum of your experience. 4/11
I quickly realised your sense of self depends on upbringing and how society & it’s peoples treat you. You are the sum of your experience. 4/11
It was also the first ‘crash’ I had with a year of counselling to deal with childhood trauma that resurfaced.
I realised how v important it was for people who had similar experiences, to come together & share, learn and grow better from helping each other. 5/11
I realised how v important it was for people who had similar experiences, to come together & share, learn and grow better from helping each other. 5/11
Gaysoc, the then name for non-straight student society was a huge help. A collection of people who had grown up in the shadow of homophobia, finding strength and community. It worked *because* everyone knew, the others members understood their personal experience. 6/11
Finally, after a long context preamble, this brings me to Feminism.
A transwoman is fundamentally a biological male and will v probably have grown up with society (outwith the family home) treating them as a man, prior to any decision by them to outwardly differentiate. 7/11
A transwoman is fundamentally a biological male and will v probably have grown up with society (outwith the family home) treating them as a man, prior to any decision by them to outwardly differentiate. 7/11
So, if Feminism is a response to
- how Society treats Women
- Women’s’ experience in their bodies
- Women gathering to share experience, learn and grow
I can’t see why it’s helpful or indeed appropriate for anyone other than biological women to be the core of Feminism. 8/11
- how Society treats Women
- Women’s’ experience in their bodies
- Women gathering to share experience, learn and grow
I can’t see why it’s helpful or indeed appropriate for anyone other than biological women to be the core of Feminism. 8/11
Transwomen would be better creating a transwomenism movement to aid themselves, their life experience strikes me as very different to Women.
Transwomen being included into Feminism would potentially make Women very uncomfortable and remove that freedom of discussion. 9/11
Transwomen being included into Feminism would potentially make Women very uncomfortable and remove that freedom of discussion. 9/11
In the same way, I call myself an ally of Feminism. I think it’s presumptive and perhaps rather arrogant for me to express that I understand what it’s like to live as a Woman, so I’m not directly, a Feminist. That’s just my personal opinion though. 10/11
Again, I state that fundamentally, Gaysoc worked so well for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and other people because straight people weren’t in the room and the LGBT people felt able to express themselves freely. 11/11
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
And I know that many Women and life long feminists will be looking at this thread and going ‘Doh of course’ this is mansplaining.
Yup, im just sending this out hoping my audience doesn’t completely overlap with yours and with the intent to help.
Yup, im just sending this out hoping my audience doesn’t completely overlap with yours and with the intent to help.
