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The relentless policing earthquake continues!!
BIG event starting soon.. I'll be live-tweeting it right here https://twitter.com/DaniaMuqtar/status/1281266152744730624
BIG event starting soon.. I'll be live-tweeting it right here https://twitter.com/DaniaMuqtar/status/1281266152744730624
alllllllllrighty then! we've got 120+ people on the call at 5:03pm pacific coast time
early call jitters, we have horns going off in the background.. plus reading of PCCEP's "values"
time to get going!
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early call jitters, we have horns going off in the background.. plus reading of PCCEP's "values"
time to get going!
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to lay out the scene here at PCCEP:
@JoAnnPDX is thinking about initiating and running a "ballot measure" in Portland, voted on by ppl
City Council can simply vote to "refer" the vote onto the Nov ballot
It would change the City Charter, ie the city's Constitution..
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@JoAnnPDX is thinking about initiating and running a "ballot measure" in Portland, voted on by ppl
City Council can simply vote to "refer" the vote onto the Nov ballot
It would change the City Charter, ie the city's Constitution..
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In short, the ballot initiative would set up a structure for a new oversight body, in the city, for oversight of the police, the PPB, the state of Oregon's largest police force
City Auditor Mary Hull Caballero (elected) oversees "IPR", and has expressed some disagreement..
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City Auditor Mary Hull Caballero (elected) oversees "IPR", and has expressed some disagreement..
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. @PCCEPportland member @elliottyoungpdx has just laid out the basics of tonight's forum.
Right now Auditor is basically giving an overview of police review
- IPR
- CRC
- Audits (police overtime, gang team, etc)
Hardesty will then "re-envision" different possibilities
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Right now Auditor is basically giving an overview of police review
- IPR
- CRC
- Audits (police overtime, gang team, etc)
Hardesty will then "re-envision" different possibilities
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then we'll have some public input
But what the Auditor is now presenting is very RARE information for the public to interact with
So she's talking IPR Independent Police Review, 16 FTEmployees overseen by IPR office
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But what the Auditor is now presenting is very RARE information for the public to interact with
So she's talking IPR Independent Police Review, 16 FTEmployees overseen by IPR office
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Then Mayor's office, who oversees police bureau, which has it's Internal Affairs (IA), 8 paid investigators within PPB
CRC (chair Avalos) kind of interacts w both police/auditor oversight. They have almost no power tho
Auditor Hull Caballero is talking about diff models
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CRC (chair Avalos) kind of interacts w both police/auditor oversight. They have almost no power tho
Auditor Hull Caballero is talking about diff models
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The "oversight" issue came up this morning in Oregon Legislature Police Issue task force.. my notes from that can be found below
Elliott also mentioned - a scholar of police oversight is on the call this evening https://twitter.com/EmoryMort/status/1281274312578695168?s=20
Elliott also mentioned - a scholar of police oversight is on the call this evening https://twitter.com/EmoryMort/status/1281274312578695168?s=20
there are 148 people on the Zoom
Auditor is showing a very helpful chart
I'm sorry but I can't screen capture right now
Auditor
"Our oversight system suffers bc:
- prioritizes secrecy
- structural barriers impair independence"
10-min warning for Mary
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Auditor is showing a very helpful chart
I'm sorry but I can't screen capture right now
Auditor
"Our oversight system suffers bc:
- prioritizes secrecy
- structural barriers impair independence"
10-min warning for Mary
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Auditor Mary says:
Vehicles for change are within reach
City Code
Labor Contract
State Law
Direction
Hardesty is offering a more intense vehicle for change
Auditor CAUTIONS against "rushing in" to changing Charter
"very permanent.. can only be changed.."
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Vehicles for change are within reach
City Code
Labor Contract
State Law
Direction
Hardesty is offering a more intense vehicle for change
Auditor CAUTIONS against "rushing in" to changing Charter
"very permanent.. can only be changed.."
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Elliott finally ends Auditor's very informative, but over-time presentation
Elliott makes call for applying for open PCCEP positions, emphasizing Black women applying, over-police ppl
Next is @candaceforpdx Chair of CRC and rising star leader of Portland
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Elliott makes call for applying for open PCCEP positions, emphasizing Black women applying, over-police ppl
Next is @candaceforpdx Chair of CRC and rising star leader of Portland
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CRC under Candace's leadership has been rising to meet the moment with some excellent community events, including one yesterday that had over 100 people on the call, to talk about police use of force as they "control" protests
She gives the gist of the CRC
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She gives the gist of the CRC
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Vadim Mozyrsky
Police Review Board PRB is another element linked to CRC, hears cases.. when misconduct happens, panel can review case file (actually have to go to PPB), be part of hearings
IPR are paid, CRC + PRB volunteers
These are great opportunities for public learning!
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Police Review Board PRB is another element linked to CRC, hears cases.. when misconduct happens, panel can review case file (actually have to go to PPB), be part of hearings
IPR are paid, CRC + PRB volunteers
These are great opportunities for public learning!
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Shawn Campbell
24-member board Training Advisory Council TAC
not attached to PPB
required to report back to DOJ settlement agreement quarterly on police use of force concerns
started around 2012
(I'm learning!)
we depend more on expertise of ppl we recruit (less public input)
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24-member board Training Advisory Council TAC
not attached to PPB
required to report back to DOJ settlement agreement quarterly on police use of force concerns
started around 2012
(I'm learning!)
we depend more on expertise of ppl we recruit (less public input)
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some links going in the chat
wanna join CRC? Learn about TAC? join PCCEP?
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/61449
http://www.tinyurl.com/crcjoin
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/pccep/78081
We ARE gonna get the Auditor's presentation as well! Lot of great visualized info there.
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wanna join CRC? Learn about TAC? join PCCEP?
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/61449
http://www.tinyurl.com/crcjoin
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/pccep/78081
We ARE gonna get the Auditor's presentation as well! Lot of great visualized info there.
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Now the venerable @LakayanaD , leader of Word Is Bond, Co-Chair of PCCEP
Is giving a bit of history of PCCEP, including how they're in the process of thinking about the role they can play beyond direct DOJ settlement work
Volunteers. makes it tough.
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Is giving a bit of history of PCCEP, including how they're in the process of thinking about the role they can play beyond direct DOJ settlement work
Volunteers. makes it tough.
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Last month PCCEP held 9 meetings, engaged almost a thousand people.. each volunteer put in at least 20hrs work
These community fora have been so important
We're at 30 minutes into the meeting.. about to hear from Assistant Chief Mike Krantz
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These community fora have been so important
We're at 30 minutes into the meeting.. about to hear from Assistant Chief Mike Krantz
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PPB echoes what auditor said
2 main strengths of our oversight:
significant community involvement
independent oversight role "independence is key"
many would dispute these assertions
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2 main strengths of our oversight:
significant community involvement
independent oversight role "independence is key"
many would dispute these assertions
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PPB:
things that work well
"there is a sameness between IAffairs and IPR" "took us a long time to get there
"there's a thoroughness
"use of discipline guide
improvement:
"timeliness" sheer volume of complaints a prob
"trauma of 6-mo investigation on an officer
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things that work well
"there is a sameness between IAffairs and IPR" "took us a long time to get there
"there's a thoroughness
"use of discipline guide
improvement:
"timeliness" sheer volume of complaints a prob
"trauma of 6-mo investigation on an officer
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multiple comments from presenters on lack of funding for investigators
"if you change the name, rules, whatever, if you have indpeendence.. outcomes should be based on law, training, rules in place
"changing of a system to change outcomes, I'd take caution
-PPB
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"if you change the name, rules, whatever, if you have indpeendence.. outcomes should be based on law, training, rules in place
"changing of a system to change outcomes, I'd take caution
-PPB
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Mike Krantz of PPB:
"It's not a perfect system
"everyone has seen it grow, evolve, change, etc"
END of PPB
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"It's not a perfect system
"everyone has seen it grow, evolve, change, etc"
END of PPB
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question about how PCCEP can be indie if mayor recruits..
Elliott describes the recruitment process which is much more community-generated that the mayor then approves. admits members serve "at the mayor's discretion"
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Elliott describes the recruitment process which is much more community-generated that the mayor then approves. admits members serve "at the mayor's discretion"
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public questions:
question about ppl resigning from PCCEP
question from Portland Copwatch Dan Handelman
next Rev Matt Hennessee
Handelman is bringing up historical limits to oversight
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question about ppl resigning from PCCEP
question from Portland Copwatch Dan Handelman
next Rev Matt Hennessee
Handelman is bringing up historical limits to oversight
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Rev Dr Hennessee, a Black elder and leader, is a voice who weighs in a lot on city direction w city/state electeds. He publicly spoke out against protesters after a recent protest on MLK outside the N Portland PPB precinct, and also has advocated for School Resource Officers
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Soon we're getting into Hardesty's presentation
Another Q: how can oversight/PCCEP have more teeth
Lakayana: "yes that's absolutely something that we want"
stipend: $120/mo currently
kinda cleaning up Q's from the chat. flowing smoothly
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Another Q: how can oversight/PCCEP have more teeth
Lakayana: "yes that's absolutely something that we want"
stipend: $120/mo currently
kinda cleaning up Q's from the chat. flowing smoothly
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Lakayana talking about passing resolutions..
Brings up how doing Audits, or writing policy, isn't what they're built to do. That should be done by ppl getting paid to do that. PCCEP can bring fwd what they're hearing from the community
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Brings up how doing Audits, or writing policy, isn't what they're built to do. That should be done by ppl getting paid to do that. PCCEP can bring fwd what they're hearing from the community
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next Q abolitionist Q:
Elliott: we are trying to improve community safety. even if ur an abolitionist and believe PPB shld be abolished.. getting involved in the meantime to address egregious behaviors of the bureau is worth the time and effort
next @alankesslr Q
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Elliott: we are trying to improve community safety. even if ur an abolitionist and believe PPB shld be abolished.. getting involved in the meantime to address egregious behaviors of the bureau is worth the time and effort
next @alankesslr Q
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Kessler:
you need money
need power
need gag order
Ross Caldwell (Director, IPR) brought on
- we are paid.. 15 employees, 8 investigators
- absolutely right about gag order.. we cannot make public
we've ID'ed as a huge problem
great Q/comments from Kessler
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you need money
need power
need gag order
Ross Caldwell (Director, IPR) brought on
- we are paid.. 15 employees, 8 investigators
- absolutely right about gag order.. we cannot make public
we've ID'ed as a huge problem
great Q/comments from Kessler
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IPR director:
"most common reason we close a case
"even if the evidence is there, it doesn't violate a directive
so we need to be able to change a directive
community needs to be able to see..
we've got a road-map
amending PPA contract, city code.. gonna take some work tho
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"most common reason we close a case
"even if the evidence is there, it doesn't violate a directive
so we need to be able to change a directive
community needs to be able to see..
we've got a road-map
amending PPA contract, city code.. gonna take some work tho
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TAP: many of our issues are similar to PCCEP
we can ship a recommendation but if chief or mayor rejects, we go nowhere
we have zero staff. all work done by volunteers. for some ppl we're talking 10+hrs /wk
turnover: long-term drain of knowledge
affects how effective we are
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we can ship a recommendation but if chief or mayor rejects, we go nowhere
we have zero staff. all work done by volunteers. for some ppl we're talking 10+hrs /wk
turnover: long-term drain of knowledge
affects how effective we are
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fantastic commentary!!! Great forum
Q: DOJ settlement says you need oversight
public knows oversight doesn't have teeth
is it the police union and contract that blocks this?
if so what do we need to do as civilians to make that change?
new mayor? lawyer?
great Q
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Q: DOJ settlement says you need oversight
public knows oversight doesn't have teeth
is it the police union and contract that blocks this?
if so what do we need to do as civilians to make that change?
new mayor? lawyer?
great Q
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Fantastic public conversation going on
So proud of these public servants, civilian leaders who are stepping up and making these forums happen
Feel lucky to live in a city with people like this
Here we go w Commissioner Hardesty, 10 minutes
6:03pm
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So proud of these public servants, civilian leaders who are stepping up and making these forums happen
Feel lucky to live in a city with people like this
Here we go w Commissioner Hardesty, 10 minutes
6:03pm
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trying to stitch together the whole thread https://twitter.com/EmoryMort/status/1281394118334144512?s=20
Hardesty right off the bat seeking to address anger from Auditor's office about Commissioner's plan to trash/scrap IPR
"I think the auditor's office is 2nd to none in terms of auditing city govt to find out what is/isn't working"
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"I think the auditor's office is 2nd to none in terms of auditing city govt to find out what is/isn't working"
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"Reason there's so many commtt's w/o teeth. It was designed that way. We knew when we brought in DOJ bc we knew PPB was not gonna investigate themselves."
"we've spent so much time tinkering
"when we put together IPR it was envisioned as a stop-gap
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"we've spent so much time tinkering
"when we put together IPR it was envisioned as a stop-gap
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