One of the many reasons I have deep respect for German academia. They treat PhD students as employees, not "students".

PhD students, at least in CS, are IMO almost always invisible employees: They do research work, often on someone else's project, 40+ hrs a week. 1/4 https://twitter.com/AndreasZeller/status/1278246191482974209
We often try to claim low pay for PhD students is offset by saying "well, they get a PhD in exchange".

Yet, in R1 CS, the student often has to work on a specific grant funded project their PI came up with, which may even include IP. 2/4
This is not the traditional PhD model of defining your own creative dissertation; which in some-many fields the advisor isn't even a coauthor on. 3/4
Thus, does the "well you get a PhD" still count as a reason for low pay? Is this really a PhD?

Or are PhD students professional lab assistants who we underpay & slide a PhD under the table?

What does this mean for the value of a "PhD"? 4/4
+1 Great thread from @ovahldy that this "employee" style system was not always the case in Germany. PhD students organized for better pay and etc.

Thread: https://twitter.com/ovahldy/status/1278457805859512320
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