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Had a quick look at some of the 'best' criticism of Settlers by Sakai - Rashid Johnson & redkahina.
One issue of the debate is that Sakai purposefully uses inventive language, and his critics react angrily to it. Discussions go round in circles
First is: http://rashidmod.com/?p=1125
One issue of the debate is that Sakai purposefully uses inventive language, and his critics react angrily to it. Discussions go round in circles
First is: http://rashidmod.com/?p=1125
Their first criticism is that Settlers is anti-Marxist and replaces race for class.
The first chapter of Settlers contains 34 references to class and 0 to race.
Sakai explained that "race is class in drag", an example of his inventive language
The first chapter of Settlers contains 34 references to class and 0 to race.
Sakai explained that "race is class in drag", an example of his inventive language
"cites episodes from history" - Settlers is a material historical study, with political commentary thrown in.
What is materialism, if not that?
None of the critics of settlers give credit for what 95% of the book is: detailed hidden history of working class & oppressed people
What is materialism, if not that?
None of the critics of settlers give credit for what 95% of the book is: detailed hidden history of working class & oppressed people
No the main theme of Settlers is tracking the creation & development of the US settler colony on the continent of America. Of course that is a brutal history.
There *is* class distinctions in the settler nation: the point is they class collaborate
There *is* class distinctions in the settler nation: the point is they class collaborate
there is a white working class but it's not the most exploited class, is Sakai's conclusion.
The book is all about contention and conflict between settler elites and working class.
I don't know how you can call that "uniform"
The book is all about contention and conflict between settler elites and working class.
I don't know how you can call that "uniform"
Rashid contrasts bad Settlers with good Ted Allen's "The Invention Of The White Race"
Sakai read Allen's book and responded to it in Settlers.
http://readsettlers.org/ch2.html
Ted Allen (according to summaries, I havent read his book) bacon's rebellion was the pivotal moment in creating the white race.
http://readsettlers.org/ch2.html
Ted Allen (according to summaries, I havent read his book) bacon's rebellion was the pivotal moment in creating the white race.
Allen's student Noel Ignatiev later gave constructive criticism of Allen that the thesis of elites literally conspiring to create race to trick the masses is not materialist. https://www.pmpress.org/blog/2019/09/02/my-debt-and-obligation-to-ted-allen/
Ted Allen apparently coined the phrase "white skin privilege" and his remedy was to renounce it.
C'mon!
C'mon!
On to redkahina.
It's difficult to parse what this person is trying to say.
I think this is saying the white working class are treated by sakai the same as Jews in a tsarist secret police propaganda operation were
I haven't read the protocols
It's difficult to parse what this person is trying to say.
I think this is saying the white working class are treated by sakai the same as Jews in a tsarist secret police propaganda operation were
I haven't read the protocols
Well Settlers was inspired by talking to Africans and Palestinians dealing with their own settler Nations.
We don't have a universal theory of settlerism yet, nor a comprehensive world historical study of it.
Don't see why this makes studying Amerikkka "not serious"
We don't have a universal theory of settlerism yet, nor a comprehensive world historical study of it.
Don't see why this makes studying Amerikkka "not serious"
It's difficult to argue against this due to sheer confusion.
All the references to Jews are contrasting the multitude of whitening European migrants contending with those excluded from whiteness.
Or comparing the experience of Native people to that of Jews under Nazism.
All the references to Jews are contrasting the multitude of whitening European migrants contending with those excluded from whiteness.
Or comparing the experience of Native people to that of Jews under Nazism.
That's all I have for now!
I think the NABPP had some more substantial critiques of Settlers that I will search for at some stage
I think the NABPP had some more substantial critiques of Settlers that I will search for at some stage
