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heres a short thread on two languages i barely speak plus more
Obligatory im an amateur and not an expert https://twitter.com/KidulWarlock/status/1262047632886599680
heres a short thread on two languages i barely speak plus more
Obligatory im an amateur and not an expert https://twitter.com/KidulWarlock/status/1262047632886599680
Ok so technically my mom is 1/2 Sunda-Minang (Grandma) and 1/2 Solo Javanese (Grandpa) and my dad is just Lumajang Javanese (dont know his ancestry sorry, maybe some Madurese) Although i dont speak malay, i watched a copious amount of Upin Ipin episodes so i know some words
Preface: the Austronesian language family
basically the indigenous people of Taiwan back in the day moved out of Taiwan to the Phillipine islands and then spread out and about. The Polynesian, the Malagasy, and most SE Asian languages are in this language family.
basically the indigenous people of Taiwan back in the day moved out of Taiwan to the Phillipine islands and then spread out and about. The Polynesian, the Malagasy, and most SE Asian languages are in this language family.
The Austronesians had Rice, Boats, Sweet Yams (Taro) and later Bananas,
NO AUSTRONESIAN IS NOT A RACE ITS A GODDAMN LINGUISTIC FAMILY
Both Javanese and Sundanese are in the western Malayo-Polynesian subgroup (red part of the map). their split was a long time ago.
The word Barat is derived from "Proto-Malayic *barat, from Proto-Malayo-Chamic *barat, from Proto-Malayo-Sumbawan *barat, from Proto-Sunda-Sulawesi *barat, from Proto-Malayo-Polynesian *habaʀat, from Proto-Austronesian *Sabaʀat. "
-wiktionary
Its meaning in PMP is "SW Monsoon"
-wiktionary
Its meaning in PMP is "SW Monsoon"
https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-s_s2.htm?zoom_highlight=barat
heres a link for my citation.
The derivations of word *habaʀat is used by later languages as "west" because the Austronesian people did not develop cardinal directions until after their migration outwards.
heres a link for my citation.
The derivations of word *habaʀat is used by later languages as "west" because the Austronesian people did not develop cardinal directions until after their migration outwards.
The word in PMP originally referred to the southwest monsoon that brings rain and wind and whatever to the greater southeast asian area. In Javanese, west is /kulon/, a Javanese invention, as altho the wind still comes from the west, some dialects of Javanese still regard the
word barat as only meaning wind because the word in old Javanese was not used as a Cardinal direction unlike say, Malay. As far as i know, /Angin/, the Indonesian and sometimes Javanese word for wind, is from Malay. cant find etymology
Not only that, as one of the many notable influences of Southeast Asia, one of India's name is also Bharat, and India IS located to the WEST of SEA.
What kind of coincidence is that
What kind of coincidence is that
The reference to the southwest monsoon is what also made the word /avaratra/, a cognate of Barat to, perhaps confusingly, mean north in Malagasy.
Bonus: the word /timur/, which means East in Indonesian and Malay, is a cognate to Hawai'ian /kimu/, which means rain. This is also because the word originally did not have cardinal-direction meaning
