1/A TON of discussion/debate this weekend over "Liberal Order".

Several people found the debate(s) helpful, so I tried to consolidate it below (with a bit of commentary).

#ChicagoIntroIR2018: this is NOT required reading, but it touches on several points raised in class!
2/The weekend debate started with this tweet from @shifrinson
3/Things went in multiple directions at that point.
4/One direction was debating if Liberal Order was truly a post-1945 phenomenon or should instead by associated with G.H.W Bush's New World Order https://twitter.com/ProfPaulPoast/status/1056188854082920448
5/Another direction was debating Ikenberry's role in creating the phrase and whether the phrase "Liberal" should be associated with "good" https://twitter.com/ALanoszka/status/1056239941703946243
6/There was then a brief discussion about whether focusing on "Liberal Order" does a disservice to our broader understanding of "order" as a concept:

https://twitter.com/DenisonBe/status/1056208306304368640
7/Next came discussion on the Liberal v Illiberal balance of policies in a "Liberal Order" (more on that below)

https://twitter.com/Kuorum1/status/1056397672561737729

& https://twitter.com/Curseofthe9th/status/1056263362537971712
8/This Liberal v Illiberal balance, combined with comments by @dhnexon, prompted the following question from me (and brief side exchange on the history of the word "Hegemony" with @smsaideman & @daninedal) https://twitter.com/ProfPaulPoast/status/1056237002469842944
9/ @gregmitrovich then brought in a useful intervention by essentially asking "where is IPE? https://twitter.com/gregmitrovich/status/1056187777870585856
10/At this point, @ProfSaunders then raised the thing everyone else was dancing around...Realism. Needless to say, this sparked an EXTENSIVE exchange!

Here:
https://twitter.com/ProfSaunders/status/1056200736537751558

& Here: https://twitter.com/shifrinson/status/1056205080003837952
11/ @KSchultz3580 took it a step further by raising the issue of actual US intentions in the immediate post-WWII period https://twitter.com/KSchultz3580/status/1056617423858675712
12/This led @profmusgrave to take issue with the debate and offer a useful list of "Further Reading" (all of which is #IR_True_NonTrivial work)

https://twitter.com/profmusgrave/status/1056619214763638784
13/So I think that covered it. I agree with @mladen_lisanin & @hilderestad that this was a pretty amazing exchange

https://twitter.com/mladen_lisanin/status/1056605073143414784

& https://twitter.com/hilderestad/status/1056440595802189830
14/and agree with @EmmaMAshford that this debate shows how Twitter can be useful!

https://twitter.com/EmmaMAshford/status/1056205902548779008
Addendum: @dhnexon offered some addition thoughts (and cites and references to earlier tweets) based on the above thread. Thought I would add them there:

https://twitter.com/dhnexon/status/1056894718813048832
Addendum 2: I left out @smsaideman's properly-qualified, Canadian-informed defense of Liberal Order: https://twitter.com/smsaideman/status/1056201909030264839
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